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WSJ: Trump Repeatedly Urged Ukraine to Probe Biden but Offered No Quid-Pro-Quo

All the speculation that President Trump offered military aid to the Ukrainians to investigate Joe Biden, down the drain.

But asking foreign governments to investigate your political opponents is egregious. Not sure if it’s illegal, but it is the wrong thing to do.

According to the Wall Street Journal:

President Trump in a July phone call repeatedly pressured the president of Ukraine to investigate Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden ’s son, urging Volodymyr Zelensky about eight times to work with Rudy Giuliani, his personal lawyer, on a probe, according to people familiar with the matter.

“He told him that he should work with [Mr. Giuliani] on Biden, and that people in Washington wanted to know” whether allegations were true or not, one of the people said. Mr. Trump didn’t mention a provision of foreign aid to Ukraine on the call, said this person, who didn’t believe Mr. Trump offered the Ukrainian president any quid-pro-quo for his cooperation on any investigation.

Mr. Giuliani in June and August met with top Ukrainian officials about the prospect of an investigation, he said in an interview. The Trump lawyer has suggested Mr. Biden as vice president worked to shield from investigation a Ukrainian gas company with ties to his son, Hunter Biden. A Ukrainian official earlier this year said he had no evidence of wrongdoing by Mr. Biden or his son

21 Responses to WSJ: Trump Repeatedly Urged Ukraine to Probe Biden but Offered No Quid-Pro-Quo

  1. How ’bout asking Foreign Intelligence services to help our FBI and CIA set up a duly elected President with a complete bullshit dossier of slanderous lies? I would say that’s a tad “egregious”, wouldn’t you Keith?

    The declassification of what our own IC has done in an attempt to destroy Trump and his entire family, is going to be made public, and these planted stories all of a sudden to change the subject, aren’t going to work or soften the blow.

    Hillary Clinton, Obama, Brennan, Comey, McCabe, Struck, Lynch, et.al, are involved in the biggest political scandal in our history.

    If they do not face justice for what they did, then there really is a two tier system in this country. One for the elite and one for the rest of us, and our little 243 year old experiment in self government is finished.

  2. Not knowing what he’s supposed to have said, or even if any of it is true, just makes one(me) wonder if PresTrump has done it again – brought wrongdoing out in the public …not his…but of the Dem frontrunner for POTUS, Joe Biden.

    If this is really about Biden and his son’s financial doings in or about the Ukraine, this story goes nowhere, and fast.
    IMO, of course.

  3. Maybe it should also be discussed how Obama/Biden ordered the Ukraine’s President to fire its attorney general or lose $1 Billion in aid. Why did they want him fired? Cause Biden’s son needed the Ukraine’s deposits in his hedge fund account and the Ukraine AG didn’t want to play. Biden’s son made an estimated $3 million in profit from it.

    That is what Trump wants investigated.

  4. But asking foreign governments to investigate your political opponents is egregious.

    So is weaponizing the FBI to spy on your political opposition’s Presidential campaign.

    • Maybe get the facts first, before you spout off on what is and isn’t “egregious”.

      The government of Ukraine under both Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, and now President Volodymyr Zelensky, had been trying to deliver information about Obama officials and Democrat party officials (DNC on behalf of Hillary Clinton) requesting the government of Ukraine to interfere in the 2016 election.

      Both Poroshenko and Zelensky administrations had tried, unsuccessfully, to get information to current U.S. officials. U.S. State Department officials in Ukraine were refusing to give visa’s to Ukrainian emissaries because they did not want the damaging information sent to the President Trump administration.

      Failing to get help from the U.S. State Department, the Ukranians tried a workaround, and hired a respected U.S. lawyer to hand deliver the documentary evidence directly to the U.S. Department of Justice. The contracted American lawyer hand-delivered the information to the U.S. Department of Justice in New York.

      However, after delivering the information and not hearing back from the U.S. government, the Ukrainian government, now led by President Zelensky, interpreted the silence as the Trump administration and U.S. government (writ large) being upset about the Ukraine involvement overall. Out of concern for a serious diplomatic breakdown, the Zelensky administration made a personal request to the U.S. State Department for assistance.

      THE U.S.STATE DEPARTMENT then reached out to Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani; and asked him if he would meet with President Zelensky’s top lawyer, Andrei Yermak.

      • Get the facts before I spout off? Disagreement is welcome here and even encouraged, because we all learn from it. But that’s a pretty nasty way to address the person who provides this place for you.

        The John Solomon article you are alluding to, which you are certain is “fact” – probably is, he does good work – does not address Trump’s personal calls to the Ukranian leader, which is what I reference in the article. https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/462422-missing-piece-to-the-ukraine-puzzle-state-departments-overture-to-rudy

        So get your own facts right.

        • Maybe you should learn how to read your own blog…the indentation below “jimg” post should indicate to you that it was a reply to him. Not you, Kieth.

          I see you never miss an opportunity to blast Trump, no matter how big or small the infraction. Cool. Now maybe you can show the same balance and aim your keyboard at the gross malfeasance of Joe Biden and his crooked, pampered kid.
          We’ll see.

          • Maybe you could learn before spouting off and see I was using Keith’s quote.

            Next time I’ll put quotation marks since there isn’t an edit feature.

    • Scullman: jimg was being pro-Trump, you misunderstood him. He was saying it was egregious of the Obama people to spy on the Trump campaign. He was disagreeing with me, but in a decent way. Either way, your reaction was to the sentence I wrote. And now, “Learn how to read your own blog.” Nasty tone. I am very supportive of Trump when he’s right, which often, and quite critical of his opponents, which gets me lots of abuse from moderates and the left. But if you want a website that slavishly bows to everything Trump and doesn’t try to state the truth, there are plenty of those.

  5. If Biden committed corrupt acts, they need to be investigated. Placing any blame on Trump (the most transparent POTUS in US history), for his desire to drain the swamp, is simply misguided.

  6. “according to people familiar with the matter.”

    “one of the people said”.

    The above are the “sources”, unnamed, for the WSJ reporting clip you put in your post of Sept. 20 at 4:06pm.

    Now it turns out the “whistleblower” NEVER-HEARD-THE-PHONE-CALL, but heard about it from someone else. This is the kind of bulls*t that some of us in this country we are fed up with.

    It’s not your fault, I am not saying that it is; and I’m sorry you don’t like my “tone” (I’m not a professional writer and I’ll have to watch that in the future) but my point stands. This is crap reporting. Pure, unadultarated, crap, and purposely meant to mislead the reader.

    I could care less that it came from the venerated Wall Street Journal, as if that’s supposed to mean something these days. Trump Derangement Syndrome is an equal opportunity affliction.

    “Repeatedly pressured”? Bullsh*t. Prove it.

    The President of the Ukraine denies it. The Foreign Minister of the Ukraine denies it. Does that count for anything?…oh, wait…. I know…. Trump paid them off, right?

    We’ll see how the “professional journalists” follow the crumbs to the Joe Biden story of pressuring the Burisma investigations prosecutor to be fired. That prosecutor was investigating Biden’s sons involvement with the company. Joe Biden conveinently leaves that part out of his macho retelling of how he told the president “fire him before I leave in six hours, or no money”.

    Hope my tone has improved.

  7. As he was leaning toward Medvedev in Seoul, Obama was overheard asking for time – “particularly with missile defense” – until he is in a better position politically to resolve such issues.

    “This is my last election … After my election I have more flexibility,” Obama said, expressing confidence that he would win a second term. “I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” said Medvedev, Putin’s protégé and long considered number two in Moscow’s power structure. (March 26, 2012)

    Now THAT was egregious…but the Dems and mainstream media responded with a collective yawn.

  8. Latest is that the previous Ukraine government sent $3 million to Hunter Biden in 2014, via Latvia and Cyprus to try and cover it up. As per Rudy Giuliani, when the Ukraine prosecutor was closing in Obama told the Cyprus officials not to release info on the amount, then the prosecutor was fired.

    Schiff went to the Ukraine about 4 weeks ago so they must have got wind this was going to come out.