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Former Ambassador to Afghanistan: Deal With Taliban is Surrender

Former U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan Ryan Crocker says the Trump administration’s deal with the Taliban is Vietnam all over again: Abandoning an ally and leaving the country’s people to a brutal regime hostile to the United States.

Crocker writes in the Washington Post:

Now the United States is negotiating directly with the Taliban. A framework agreement was announced on Monday calling for a cease-fire that could lead to the full withdrawal of U.S. troops. The Taliban would commit to not harboring terrorist organizations that could threaten U.S. security. In other words, the Taliban promised no 9/11 replay.

The framework was reached without the involvement of the Afghan government. The Taliban has said all along that it refuses to negotiate with the government, considering the government the illegitimate puppet of the U.S. occupation. By acceding to this Taliban demand, we have ourselves delegitimized the government we claim to support.

This current process bears an unfortunate resemblance to the Paris peace talks during the Vietnam War. Then, as now, it was clear that by going to the table we were surrendering; we were just negotiating the terms of our surrender. The Taliban will offer any number of commitments, knowing that when we are gone and the Taliban is back, we will have no means of enforcing any of them.

Remember what happened when Obama withdrew from Iraq? We got ISIS. We’ll get ISIS again, or something like it, if we let the Taliban take Afghanistan again.

It will be the same situation as existed before 2001. What a waste, and how dangerous.

18 Responses to Former Ambassador to Afghanistan: Deal With Taliban is Surrender

  1. ISIS, radical Islamists? They’re here, among us. They become citizens of a country/idea they hate. They are getting elected to public office, building terrorists groups, sneaking across our southern border.
    It’s past time to get out. Bring our troops home.

  2. I history I have read about Afghanistan is that it is a tribal society. They will made a deal and that will last until they get a better deal. The US has been there for 17 years. It is time to come to bring the troops home as Srdem65 writes.

    Same old deal we enter countries and never have an exit plan. It is upsetting to know China controls their rare earth which the US needs for electronic production.

  3. We’ll be there forever if we try to keep the Taliban from power. Afghanistan is a Middle Eastern country. All they understand over there is tyranny and tribalism. We’re not going to change that, and we haven’t been able to in 17 years. Time to leave. Anyone who lives in the Middle East has a sucky life. Just the way it is in areas of the world. Doesn’t mean we have to come to the rescue.

  4. If we are to stay, we need to know what victory looks like. Under what circumstances, could we say that we succeeded?

    Simply put, how do we win the war?

    And if there’s no definite answer, then how can we win if we don’t even know what the victory conditions are?

    It won’t be good for national pride to cut our losses, and the security implications aren’t pleasant.

    But how can we be successful in Afghanistan, if we can’t even define “success” there in the first place?

  5. There is no “victory” to be had there. Not worth another American life. Unless, Crocker and the other Obamites, accompanied by assorted foreign policy think tank commandos want to suit up.
    Maybe you too, Keith?
    I’m all for that.
    17 years and thousands of our best, and for what?
    Watch them from the sky and drone the shit out them when they get rowdy.
    Tactical nukes?
    No problem.

  6. The only reason to stay would be if we got something truly valuable, such as entirely free oil or large payments of tribute money each year.

    Trying to build a nation for them and change their tribal ways into something stable and doing it just for the sake of our honor, that will cost our lives, treasure, and control of our own national path. The tail will be wagging the dog as long as we invest in the losing proposition of their future.

  7. At what point do we tell the Afghan government we support that it’s time to pull their own weight? We pump in $5 billion a year to prop up their Army and Security Forces who lose 25% a year to desertions (48,000 out of 195,000). That doesn’t include casualties which are running around 10,000 KIA per year.

    https://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/tide-of-desertions-among-highest-in-recent-history-strains-afghan-forces-1.366071

    We make up 50% of the total remaining NATO forces (8,475/16,910).

    Take the Taliban leaders out to some uninhabited part of the Hindu Kush mountains and set off a tactical nuclear weapon (say 5 kilotons). Let them know that this is what will happen if we ever have another terrorist attack launched against us from Afghanistan.

    Problem solved.

  8. If Afghanistan is anyone’s problem, it is Russia’s.

    I say now what a 36 year younger me said to the envoy who spoke at my church trying to drum up support for Charlie Wilson’s disgusting war:
    It is not our business. It is between Russia and Afghanistan. The USA should not be playing political games interfering in other people’s wars at all.

    At the time, my Marine was a few months old. He has since fought in Iraq, and lost friends there and in Afghanistan. If we had minded our own business and allowed or even helped Russia kill off the fundamentalist islamists when they first arose there and in Iran, we would not have spent the past 13 years fighting the monster we allowed and abetted. Time to end it.

  9. Staying any longer in Afghanistan is pointless. The people there will never, ever change. Rudyard Kipling got it right in 1890.

    “When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
    And the women come out to cut up what remains,
    Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
    An’ go to your Gawd like a soldier.
    Go, go, go like a soldier,
    Go, go, go like a soldier,
    Go, go, go like a soldier,
    So-oldier of the Queen!
    from “A Young British Soldier” by Rudyard Kipling