In the history of mankind, many republics have risen, have flourished for a less or greater time, and then have fallen because their citizens lost the power of governing themselves and thereby of governing their state. TR

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Sunday Open Thread || October 16, 2016

44 thoughts on “Sunday Open Thread || October 16, 2016”

  1. The headline at CNN’s website reads – Is the Media in the tank for Clinton?
    Without bothering to read their word salad of denial of the facts available to all, the public is sure that protecting MrsClinton’s campaign is practiced across the media.
    Their concerted effort ( phrases or words) is apparent to anyone who can understand English
    While they choose to highlight every move or words spoken by MrTrump who was, and is, a private citizen as proof he will be a terrible leader of the US, they gloss over all of the moves, actions, and votes MrsClinton has made while serving as US Senator and Sec Of State.

    When a large crowd of Trump supporters chanted “Tell the Truth” at the media following his campaign, one of the reporters from the NYTimes claimed they were frightened by the notion of 15,000 angry people demanding the “truth”.
    Imagine that – being scared of the public who believes the MSM is a bunch of lying so-called journalists.

    1. This is how Gingrich is calling the pro-Hillary/ anti-Trump corruption of the corporate media:

      “Gingrich: 20 Media Executives Are Launching A “Coup D’Etat” Against Millions Of Trump Voters”
      http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/16/gingrich_20_media_executives_are_launching_a_coup_detat_against_millions_of_trump_voters.html

      You’re absolutely correct, of course. Those with eyes to see and ears to hear know exactly what the media big shots are trying to pull off.

      1. I think that at the debate Trump should bring up how Shrillary and her campaign team and the media keep claiming – with zero evidence – that the Russians are interfering in and trying to manipulate our elections. But, Trump should say that the REAL interference in and manipulation of the election is coming from the media. Anyone with a brain already knew that, but we now have clear evidence of this in the emails from Podesta and other Clinton campaign people. The latest example, of course, is the massive coordinated pile-on of unfounded accusations against Trump all coming out in just a matter of a few days, just weeks before the election, and serving as a huge distraction and diversion from Shrillary’s many misdeeds and crimes as revealed in the WikiLeaks releases.

        1. Yes…it’s brazen press manipulation at a level seldom seen. Here’s a WikiLeaks example, via Drudge from a Breitbart story about how the Clinton people are manipulating the press:

          “Schwerin (Clinton’s Director of Speechwriting) proposes giving establishment news outlets some embargoed information on the physician’s letter, writing: “We expect the stories that pop at 2 pm to have headlines such as ‘CLINTON IN ‘EXCELLENT HEALTH,’ MEDICAL RECORDS SAY’ … ‘CLINTON RELEASES HEALTH REPORT’ … ‘CLINTON CAMP AIMS TO ONE-UP BUSH IN DISCLOSING FINANCES’.”

          http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/16/wikileaks-hillary-clinton-campaign-health-hyper-sensitive/

          Clinton people insisting how headlines by news outlets be written?????? Wow.

          1. I read that today, about the emails in the summer of 2015 regarding the letter from Shrillary’s doctor. What I’m hoping for in the next release is evidence of how Shrillary’s team procured the letter from her doctor, possibly suggested statements they wanted included in the letter, (like her claim that the blood clot in her head has dissolved), and maybe even suggested edits to her first draft of the letter. None of that would surprise me.

      1. Ugh, I can’t stand her anymore. Unfortunately, the Murdoch sons love her and think she’s the future of Fox News. I hope she leaves next year when her contract is up, but I doubt that will happen.

  2. Has anyone noticed that Hillary has adopted/stolen some of Trumps mannerisms?

    She now claps along with the small crowd when she walks out on the stage.

    She now does the “thumbs up” when she arrives at the podium in front of her small crowd.

    She now turns around to the small crowd behind her and puts both hands up in the air
    as if she just won the worlds championship.

    Trump has almost always done these three things while saying “thank you” several times to his LARGE crowds.

    Just my thoughts on a sunny Sunday morning.

    1. she is doing nothing since last Thursday. Nothing until the next debate. Trump busy every day’

      Drug holiday for her so they can fill her up just before the debate.

      Drug tests needed!!!!!!

    2. My mother and I have noticed all of that and have been talking about it lately. The first thing I noticed was that she started pointing to some people in the crowd and then would give them a thumbs up. Weird.

      1. That “pointing” is an old trick. It’s meant to impress someone that she actually knows the people in the crowd.
        It’s really dumb.

    1. Nicely done Geoff. Important topic so good to hear of reader response.

      You might find this useful Podesta Wikileaks reference. Broken down by topic/area,one line summary and direct link to location in WL. Example:

      Huffington Post contributor Frank Islam writes to John Podesta in email titled “My blogs in the Huffingt
      on
      Post”, says “I am committed to make sure she is elected the next president.” “Please let me know if I can
      be of any service to you”
      https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5988#efmADmAE6AF-AG1

      link to pdf

      http://tinyurl.com/zc4ybxd

  3. Trump pushing for drug test a brilliant idea. Axelrod saying she should skip debate speaks volumes. Latent concerns about her cover up re her health will increase if she says no.

    1. Yes, it’s a very clever suggestion which is throwing the Clinton Cluster of Gangsters into complete, panic, agitation and consternation. THEY can’t suggest that Hillary pull out of the last debate because that would be too obviously look like she’s terrified and running away–so they get Axelrod, the ever faithful Alinsky foot soldier, to make the suggestion to measure public reaction to the idea. That suggests interesting notions: 1. Trump’s people have uncovered drug use by Hillary and are calling her on it, 2. Trump has a smarter opposition research effort than does Hillary and is sending her a signal to start packing her bags. 3. Trump may be well aware of even more embarrassing issues about Hillary’s past and present behavior which, if made known to the general public, will put the entire Hillary scam to bed once and for all–the “drug test” suggestion being just the beginning.

      Tactically, Trump got her on this one. It’s a clever political move–would you rather be eaten by a cackle of starving hyenas or dunked into the local water supply by angry Pilgrim Fathers until you admit you are a witch.

      1. A drug test would never happen, so it’s a silly notion. Nevertheless, it may raise some question about Hilly’s drug use.

        I think what Trump is doing is he is trying to raise doubt enough to reduce the dem turnout. While offering enough talking points and “ra ra” bs to keep his turnout up. I’d like to see him calm down a bit and reach out to the undecided bunch.

        Hopefully his campaign knows what they’re doing. They have defied everything so far, but I have never seen anything like what we see now. The press, (political) right, and left so determined to keep him out of the white house. It IS rigged, but I’m not sure it does Trump much good to keep bringing it up.

        1. Wouldn’t it be a great scene if, at the debate, Trump held up the results of his own drug test—“See, I’m clean”. And then pointed to Hillary and said, “Where are your results, Hillary? Oh, you don’t have them? (Turning to the audience) Apparently, Hillary refused to take her drug test so we don’t know what drugs she’s been on. What is she hiding, that’s what the American people want to know!!! What is Crooked Hillary hiding from us, ladies and gentlemen????” (crowd roars in agreement) “Crooked Hillary! What’s she hiding?”).

          Have I been watching too many late night movies? ;+}

    1. Excellent thanks!
      On another note. My 80 year old mother made an observation yesterday that she can’t recall ever seeing Hillary wear an American flag pin on any of her Mao suits?
      I haven’t had time to research, any WHD’s remember seeing H with a flag pin?

      1. I remember looking for it as well. She has not worn it in the debates . I do not know about day to day.

        It’s possible that her wardrobe people think it might clash with her thoughtful stylish outfits.

    2. The elites would scoff at the notion that the electorate is angry – why everything they do is to improve our lives….lol.
      They didn’t notice in 2010, didn’t catch on in 2014, so 2016 is a “mystery” to them.

      1. The election of 2016 is a threat to them.
        The American People have been awakened thanks to Trump.
        And now We the People finally have a voice speaking for US.

        MAGA !

    1. They underestimate the intelligence of the people that have been following this election process.

      I wonder if they have enough power to rig the electoral vote.

  4. There have been numerous articles recently about the influx of illegal aliens. Now, it seems the Obama admin has rolled out the red carpet and people seeking to come here legally have been shoved aside to make room for the asylum seekers. Border agents are working 16 hour days and can’t keep up with the backlog to process.

    DHS Orders Border Agents to Give Haitians, Africans, Russians, Armenians Asylum Via Mexico
    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2016/10/dhs-orders-border-agents-give-haitians-africans-russians-armenians-asylum-via-mexico/

    1. Legally or ILLEGALLY, they are streaming into our country across our open borders.
      She wants to bring in hundreds of thousands of Syrians that cannot possibly be vetted. We were once a sovereign nation. A nation of laws.

  5. Saw a headline Fox online about Trump not backing down on “rigged” elections, saying, however he would accept results.

    At this point I would say that also. And then, if it turns out that there is reason to investigate as “rigged”, I would do it. For me, what he says about it now does not determine what will happen.

    After all, Ryan said he would accept and support Trump as the nominee and look at what he has done. I don’t see much as binding in this unholy mess with a bunch of corrupt liars .

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