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Trump Support Drops Just One Point in Poll Taken After Lewd Remarks

In a poll taken after Donald Trump’s lewd remarks in a 2005 videotape were revealed, Trump’s support declined just one point and the margin between him and Hillary Clinton grew just two points. Trump now trails Clinton nationally by 42-38 percent after previously trailing by 41 to 39 percent.

According to Politico, which conducted the poll:

A wave of Republican officials abandoned Donald Trump on Saturday, but, at least for now, rank-and-file Republicans are standing by the party’s presidential candidate, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll conducted immediately after audio was unearthed Friday that had the GOP nominee crudely bragging about groping women and trying to lure a married woman into an affair.

Overall, fewer than four-in-10 voters — 39 percent — think Trump should end his presidential campaign, while only slightly more voters, 45 percent, think he should not drop out.

But voters are largely viewing Trump’s comments through their own partisan lens: 70 percent of Democrats say Trump should end his campaign, but just 12 percent of Republicans — and 13 percent of female Republicans — agree.

As of now, GOP voters largely want the party to stand behind Trump. Nearly three-quarters of Republican voters, 74 percent, surveyed on Saturday said party officials should continue to support Trump. Only 13 percent think the party shouldn’t back him.

Still, Hillary Clinton leads Trump in the four-way race for the White House by four points, 42 percent to 38 percent, with eight percent supporting Gary Johnson, three percent supporting Jill Stein and nine percent undecided. Clinton also leads by four in a two-way race, 45 percent to 41 percent.


I think voters already get that Trump is vulgar, even if the establishment is SHOCKED. Bill Clinton’s support didn’t really decline too much after the Monical Lewinsky episode. The establishment acted like it just found out Bill was a cad, but voters already knew and had accepted it.

Tonight’s debate is now more critical than ever for Trump. Does he try to apologize and talk issues, or apologize and go after Bill Clinton — and Hillary’s enabling? What do you think?

77 thoughts on “Trump Support Drops Just One Point in Poll Taken After Lewd Remarks”

    1. 1. Reference the apology he already made.

      2. Pivot

      3. Attack Hillary with every thing he’s got. With presidential poise of course. It can be done.

      I am all for taking the offensive, taking the gloves off regarding Hillary and Bill if necessary, and not being sidetracked by Ms. Vanderbilt or Raddatz (sp). Trump needs to have a plan and an agenda going in. He needs to complete it and walk off with no regrets.

  1. Thanks Keith for the info and perspective. For another very sound approach to the issue at hand, see the article linked below.

    An apology was made. It was simple, honest and I thought effective. No further apology needs to be made. He just opens with the issue and that is not good. If someone else brings it up he should reference his apology and move on.

    1. Hillary doesn’t apologize for anything.
      She does admit that the server was a mistake though.
      Hey,….why apologize when you have the Obama administration, the FBI, and the DOJ running interference for you?

  2. Agree with all posted so far. I tweeted out a thought yesterday trying to get people to put some perspective on it all. Paraphrasing:
    “Think of the Constitution as a woman. Who’s going to actually assault her, Trump’s words or Hillary’s deeds?”

      1. Back at ya. I haven’t been able to get the email notifications for new WHD posts working again so I don’t see Keith’s new posts. I check in as can but the bill paying job and family right now limiting computer time.
        Now I’ve got to go get some fresh popcorn for the show tonight! lol

  3. Obviously, he should stay on the issues, no matter how the 11 year old story is brought up. That is what Hillary Rodham Clinton does, acting as if anything she said in the past or anything she did not do to help the four in Benghazi, who died on her watch and because of her lies, does not matter now. Trump must show that he is not as sensitive and narcissistic as he has been!

  4. The Clintons need to take out their own trash first. Bill is a known philanderer, preying on young women and paying for services rendered by escorts et al. Hillary has no doubt paid to stay out of jail, no doubt from the Clinton Foundation funded by foreign donations and illegal transactions, to cover up her criminal actions. But now, we have the liberal media paid for by the Democrat hypocrites dragging Trump’s name through the mud time and again. What does any of this tabloid gossip have to do with Trump’s proven business sense and overall ability to run a country, Our country is at the point of total disaster in its downward spiral, a country currently led by a Muslim and former member of the Black Panthers, known criminals, anti-Americans, and racists. As usual, only one side of the story is told…who knows if the woman or women encouraged the advances…bottom line who cares! Obviously, the ones who care are the self-proclaimed holier than thou characters who thrive on such unimportant trivia.

  5. I don´t think he should apologize anymore. He should say something about how normal and everyday it is that guys brag and talk stupid in private, that it is is a tempest in a teacup, that he is just a normal guy, not a “perfect” political broiler ( like Obama ). And he should joke about it.In that way the other side looks like boring, prim,obsessed , abnormal control-freaks ( which they are ).
    He could add that he is now happily married to a great girl and do not need to chase other women anymore. ( I hope that is the truth ).
    Well, that was my point of view. He will probably do fine.

  6. Drop the gloves, lock and load, and say to Hillary everything that has needed to be said to her for a good quarter century.

    Trump got to where he is by doing his best impression of really cheap toilet paper: i.e., being rough and tough, and taking no shit.

    Hillary as president would be like a St. John’s wort suppository: it probably won’t solve what ails the body politic, and the specifics of administration are best left unsaid.

    If I had to give debate advice, well, there’s always “Honour 2003”:

    “Stand your ground! This is what we are fighting for: for our spirit and laws and ways! Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war; for Heaven or Hell, we shall not wait.”

    1. I agree.
      We will find out tonight whether he backs off again.
      The moderators are not going to be friendly to him.
      He needs to take a stand and get right in her face.

    2. I am reminded of these words from William Wallace, from the movie “Braveheart”:

      “You have come to fight as free men, and free men you are. What will you do with that freedom? Will you fight? Aye, fight and you may die, run and you’ll live. At least a while. And dying in your beds many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they’ll never take our freedom!”

  7. This Trump tape was clearly peddled by the Clinton/R and D elites/corporate media cabal (and who knows who else) to destroy Trump in one fell swoop. At the very least Trump, they insist, should be publicly flogged in the Town Square. Hear ye, hear ye! And the list of those anxious and desperate to be the floggers (including tonight’s debate “moderators”, you can be certain) got very long very quickly, didn’t it? .

    Seconds after the tape was made public, R elites (including, interestingly the Republican candidates Trump left in the dust long ago) were demanding Trump’s withdrawal from the race. Right this minute, not in an hour, not tomorrow, RIGHT THIS MINUTE. They all had their prepared talking points, a huge indication that they all knew the tape was going to be released when it was.

    So after all that coordinated tactical preparation to destroy Trump with this tape, he’s down by a whole point. It all failed, obviously. Back to the drawing board for them.

    But it’s not over. For the last two days all we’ve been hearing from the “experts”, the pundits, the smart set is how can Trump possibly explain this tape during Sunday’s debate?

    Ah, yes, the debate. Make sure Hillary’s listening device is set on the right frequency this time, Huma. That’s your job.

  8. Trump allegedly made similar comments on “The Apprentice” and the MSM is chomping at the bit to get hold of those tapes. Unfortunately for them, Mark Burnett owns those tapes and is unlikely to release any.

    All the hypocrites speaking out about Trump are appalling as what he said. I don’t like his comments but I also wonder what led to that conversation. What happened immediately prior and after?

  9. Such a surprise! Not!

    From CNN:
    The first set of questions at Sunday night’s presidential debate will be about Donald Trump’s vulgar comments on a newly published 2005 videotape, and the fallout from it.

    And Hillary Clinton will get the first question.

    1. Let’s not talk about anything silly (/sarc) -like this:
      Watched a small snippet of Maria B on FOX this morn. She had peeps discussing DJT. One of the female contestants (these shows always remind me of game shows…who can say the most ridiculous thing and get attention from the masses) can’t recall her name (so guess she lost) essentially said that all women have had experiences with men like Trump – and that kissing or other “gestures” are sexual harassment (not her words exactly.). Then, at the end of the segment, she told one of the other male contestants he could “hug me anytime.”
      Women in media are morons and hypocrites.

  10. its just insane the way the tv is going so anti Trump on this. After all bill and hill have done!!!!

    We are being played by the media!!!!!

  11. Here is a link to a list of RATs (Republicans against Trump).

    Mostly I am not surprised, with a few exceptions. We have elected conservatives to Congress in the past who have turned on those credentials and joined the elite. I thought they were clearly defined by now. But apparently not.

    On the list Chaffetz, Lee, Amash, Mia Love. So, its’ difficult who to believe any more when they campaign as conservative. The lure of power …

    And I find Upton’s opposition to be very hypocritical for entirely different reasons.

    Thune — go figure. Probably acting on behalf of Ryan and gang.

    1. If only Speaker Ryan and the rest of the Republicans angry with Trump were as outraged and forceful in dealing with Obama.
      If I were Trump, I would take a page out of Hillary’s playbook of empty platitudes and say, “I take full responsibility for my mistake(s)”.

      1. Obama and Hillary as so astonishingly vulnerable for the disasters–international and domestic–of the past 8 years that cutting them down to size ought to be child’s work. Yet, the RNC, the Republican leaders in Congress, the pundits all but ignore all those bad decisions and behavior. They’d much rather torture Trump over a comment (as ill advised as it was) made 11 years ago, than point the finger at the real issues. It’s really pathetic.

    1. I don’t think “piling it on” will make that much difference. Just makes it look like what it is — a concerted political attack about small balls.

      The people who will change their minds about Trump I think will not be great. It is good though that the evangelicals are standing with him. Not that they approve, but that they recognize the greater threat to freedom.

      1. This country does not a choir boy to fix the problems we are currently enduring.
        We need a warrior who likes to win and has told us that he will fight for US.

        Who gives a damn what he said 11 tears ago.

          1. :) We got it.

            I have let it go. Unless the mistakes are outrageous I know you guys can figure it out. Just had to get over myself.

  12. Believe me, polls don’t reveal the level of disgust towards Trump among the many Republicans I know.

    There is no effing way we’re voting for Hillary, but we’re sure as hell not voting for Trump.

    Vote conservative down ballot.

    1. What’s a conservative look like?!?!??!

      Paul Ryan? John McCain?

      Give me a break!

      If you want a country, vote Trump. If you want open borders, globalism, et al vote Hillary.

      I am only disgusted with people focusing on the little stuff…

    2. This morning on FOX, students at Wash U were asked to state what is important to them.
      Several HRC supporters in the group.
      Two of the male conservative students stated they wanted Trump to drop out so they could nominate a true conservative.
      No one asked their choice for a replacement.
      Oh Lord, how did we become this nation of imbeciles?
      Why would any conservative try to usurp the candidate of their party at this point?
      The other candidates LOST! What part of that is not understandable?
      If you are unhappy with the choice of DT, get your ducks in a row for 2020.
      Until then, PLEASE let the sensible and intelligent conservative adults try to sort this mess out and give conservatism a fighting chance to continue in 2020.
      And quit whining.

    3. So no presidential vote. Just down ticket? Or write in? Or Johnson? Either way — it’s a vote for Hillary imo.

      You don’t consider it as such understandably. But I think this is an election in which every vote counts — especially since there will be so much fraud and so many illegals and dead voting.

    4. Ridiculous, you might as well come out and pledge your vote to Hillary. That’s what you’re doing, no matter how you try to say that it’s not. Thanks, Traitor Jimg and all your traitorous holier-than-thou Republican friends.

  13. So NBC had this tape the whole time, and held it over to use as an October surprise.

    The ratings on their various news networks will go up, as viewers tune in to get the latest. But if they had aired that tape last year, this would not be happening.

    In other words, they are profiting by “solving” a problem, which they themselves caused.

    And that isn’t considered criminal racketeering because…?

  14. What we have here is “crude” versus “criminal”, an American achiever who loves his country versus a career manipulator who climbed over bodies both living and otherwise to become a major party nominee. And the very same people — many of them — whose long-term refusal to hear the concerns of their party’s base are largely responsible for the Hobson’s Choice we’re currently facing. OK — if that’s where we are, that’s where we proceed from. Trump/Pence.

  15. Well guess we can cross Donald off the LBGT roster. That is a plus character point on my voter check list in Donald’s favor. Hillary is unknown but suspicious.
    Every male on this planet, has some previous comments hopefully never to break wind again. I recall my Army days when……well lets just skip it please..

    1. We have to admit the catastrophic current state of the Republican elites and their strange behavior: they do not want a Republican to win the Presidency. It’s obvious. Look at who they have put up and cheered for in recent elections–McCann and Romney.

      And look how the Republican politicians and gurus act toward Trump, who at least has a fighting chance to win, with lots of enthusiasm from the rank and file citizenry, huge turnouts, etc. No, him the R elites want to destroy immediately. Even within a month of the election they demand that he step down, thus throwing the Republican party and whomever its POTUS candidate becomes in complete and total chaos. Nice job Republican leaders. That’s how you lose a Presidential election–which the Republicans have practically written the book on.

      I wonder how much money Soros has put into their offshore bank accounts as a reward for acting like idiots in this campaign.They are angrier at Trump than they ever were at Obama, Hillary or any of the D’s who have driven this country to the brink.

      If Trump wins the Presidency, it will be in spite of the Republican big shots.

      If you’re ever in a foxhole with mortar shells and rockets incoming from every direction and landing near you, and there you are fighting for your life, just pray you don’t have to depend on Republican elites to save you. They’re more likely to tell the enemy your exact position so they can adjust their fire and kill you quicker.

      1. I think the RATs attempted a coup. I think they failed. Not only in the short run but in the long run. The Party is almost beyond repair. They will blame Trump, but after this Bush/Ryan coup I do not care what they do or say.

      2. If Trump wins the Presidency, it will be in spite of the Republican big shots.

        Or another way to look at it. If Trump loses the Republican big shots will be a large reason for the loss. But the media and Clinton lies are the larger reason. And, of yeah, fraud.

  16. Astrologically speaking we are in good shape with the sun and mercury in libra. An air sign compatible with Donald’s Gemini. Laugh if you want but we need all the help we can get

  17. if your watching the criminal and the vulgarian tonight can you suggest a live stream?

    Might be hard to find as I think it’s listed as Queen Hillary and the Barbarian.

  18. Oh lawsy!!!!!
    Trump just held a mini news conference with Paula Jones, Juanita Broderick, Kathy Shelton, and one other of Bill’s rape victims and I can’t remember her name right now. I sincerely apologize.
    The 3+ minute video is on DJT’s Facebook page.
    Kathy Shelton was brutally raped when she was 12 year old. At the subsequent trial, Kathy was demeaned and her life was forever detrimentally affected because HRC was the public defender of her rapist.
    HRC essentially said this 12 year old girl asked to be raped. Her rapist served 2 months.
    In recounting this episode, Hillary bragged about winning this case – and laughed out loud when she talked about the details of her “win.”
    May the good Lord have mercy on these women.
    They are brave.
    Lord, put a hedge around each of them and keep them from harm. Bless them, Lord, and sustain them in their bravery.
    Lord, we all pray for Thy will to be done. We know that Your Love for us is perfect and unending. Thank you, Lord. We ask that Your words will be spoken through Donald Trump’s mouth. We pray that You will preserve and protect his comings in and goings out, Lord.
    Lord, please, let this debate be a positive event for those of us who love You and bless Your Holy name.
    In the holy name of Jesus, I pray it. Amen.

  19. There is another poll that shows him down 20 pts. I believe it was Wolf Bitzer who was nearly wetting his pants with excitement as he reported this.

    Do polls have any use any more?

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