In the history of mankind, many republics have risen, have flourished for a less or greater time, and then have fallen because their citizens lost the power of governing themselves and thereby of governing their state. TR
Morning all,
Been a helluva week. Between yet another self-inflicted attack in Europe and yet another week of Obama disrespecting everything that is good about America it’s one that I’m hoping I can put behind me sooner rather than later.
Coffee’s down to the last cup and on way out the door for a day of yard work (or at least however long this ol fart’s bones can handle)so wishing you all a great Saturday.
Careful–they may be saying that about Trump voters in a couple of yrs…LOL.
AFVet
Lobotomy ?
Why waste your time on air.
Sadie
Will everyone please put on their tin foil hat for a few minutes and share their thoughts on the Cruz rumors of infidelity. I realize the media has ginned it up with Trump photo tweets into the mix and suggesting it really was Rubio’s camp that started it all.
Basically, I am asking:
Who profits from this tabloid talk?
Is it part of the so-called 100-day attack on Trump?
What is Kasich’s angle and how does he play into it, if at all?
Is there a cabal of other GOPers that lit the fire this past week, who want a brokered convention [read: control]? Who are they?
I wish I could but even a tinfoil hat isn’t enough to protect me from this latest new low. I had such high hopes for the 2016 cycle and now? Well, I’d be put in permanent mod jail if I wrote what I really think right now.
Only thing I DO know is that the Nat Enquirer has surprised the MSM with the truth before. (Hart, Edwards et al)
Too early to tell if this the beginning of something bigger.
What I do find satisfying though is that Jeff Roe, the sleaze of Missouri politics is getting a dose of his own medicine.
AFVet
Keep in mind that Cruz’s PAC started it by putting out pictures of Melania that were 15 years old when she was a model and before Trump married her.
Agree. And while I do not have concrete proof, I also have no doubt that Roe had involvement. That’s just the guttersnipe that he is.
If it now blows up in his face, well………..:)
csinnm
that was not a Cruz superpac. that was an anti-Trump group. perpetuating inaccuracies is not helpful.
AFVet
I’m just going on what has been posted on other sites.
If you have more accurate information please share it csinnm.
I wonder where we’d be if Trump has tweeted: “See how beautiful my wife is and she’s smart, too, and cares about making her adopted country as great as she thought it was when she came here.” More than 140 chars but you get where I am going.
He should have! I am not 100% sure he didn’t know about it… Maybe Kasich knows all about that creep Soros’s activities too–maybe Kasich is the Manchurian Candidate–maybe they are all liars and jerks…As I have said, I don’t trust any–and now it’s I can hardly stomach any. And their little running dogs, too, Lewandowski, Rove, Stone, Eric Bolling, and anyone else you can name.
MarjoJimbo
Thanks, csinnm, you are right. Fox News has kept it up even though it is false.
TXTWISTERZ
You need to get your facts straight before you go off posting fiction. That was NOT Cruz’ pac. It is a anti_TRUMP pac and Cruz had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. Now Trump is BFF with Pecker over at the sleaze rag national enquirer and I believe Trump Had EVERYTHING to do with the sleazy rumor regarding Cruz wife. If Ms Trump had kept
Her clothes on maybe her nudie pic wouldnt plastered all over the internet.
Girly1
I do know one thing for sure – if Cruz gets the nomination I will do the ‘unthinkable’ – vote for Hillary. And it’s not b/c of the Nationl Enq. rumors.
‘Lyin’ Cruz is a sneaky, sleazy, underhanded phony who tried to ride Trump’s coattails for the first six months, and when he achieved a modicum of ‘recognition’ from the media and the public, he went into overdrive with his dirty bag of tricks.
Cruz, IMO, orchestrated the entire ‘wife’ baiting spectacle on his own. It’s his style. He is milking it for every drop he can get. He’s loving it!
Did anyone see the Heidi/Ted ‘Kiss’ this morning? With their little daughter standing next to them?? It was just a few seconds shorter than the Tipper/Al ‘kiss’ a few years ago.
Personally, I dismiss all the ‘infidelity’ rumors. He must be short on women voters, most of whom probably find him less than appealing.
Sadie
I was just reading Don Surber and found this:
Last July, a Cruz-affiliated super PAC donated $500,000 to Fiorina’s campaign, without explanation — a highly unusual move that is being reexamined in light of the Enquirer’s report about Cruz’s indiscretions. And Fiorina made a highly publicized last-minute endorsement of Cruz in the final days before the Florida primary, helping him come in a respectable second to Trump and keeping his White House hopes alive.
I will not vote for Hillary under any circumstances.
Girly1
It’s all so sordid.
The only one who is smiling is Hillary. It’s a ‘fait accompli’, IMO.
I smell ANYBODY BUT THE NOMINEES in the air…The big national WASH YOUR HAIR day.
AFVet
Cruz can’t be as bad as Hillary.
She’s dealt in crooked propositions for years.
The last one I want to see back in the WH is Hillary.
Girly1
I do know how bad HRC is, AFVet.
The problem is we have no idea what this messianic closet Pentecostal nut case will do if given absolute power. Carpet bomb the ME? Imprison all Muslims?
He scares me to death.
AFVet
Once again it looks like to me that we are going to have to hold our nose and vote, or not vote at all.
But, have faith, it is still early.
I am concentrating on who can be best stopped or thwarted by Congress–assuming Reps can get elected there downticket. But my vote will not be a part of it. I just can’t.
It’s a fine kettle of pisces when you can’t tell the pander from the platform…
TXTWISTERZ
And I feel the same way about that sleaze dog Trump. Only I will be voting Sanders cuz Shillary doesnt have a prayer
I'mNoDhimmi
Girly1, as a Canadian I have no right to comment on the US election, but wouldn’t voting for Shrillary be a bit like “cutting off your nose to spite your face”?
AFVet
Here you go Sadie.
Now keep in mind that this is a Trump ad and to my knowledge Trump supporters are not disrupting the rallies for the liberal candidates, nor the rallies for the republican candidates.
Thanks for the link. The ending “Did Anyone Think The People Destroying America Were Going To Relinquish Power Peacefully?” is very powerful and explains exactly what is happening. The left and GOPe are so threatened by Trump that they’ll do everything possible to prevent his becoming president. Soros is paying protesters all across the country and should be jailed for trying to influence an election.
A Kasich PAC…separate from him…The ads where the candidate says I approved this message come from the candidate. And we already talked about why Soros is doing this… or could be doing this. Oh, this is a giant ball of tactics now–it will take more than a kitten to untangle this yard.
The cui bono–who profits?– on this one is a challenge. You could argue that everyone in this rodeo, except for Cruz and company–might be the beneficiary.
1. Hillary and company because it puts a bad light on her R competitors
2. Trump because Cruz gets caught up in this web of weirdness and gets weaker. Trump just lets Cruz get tangled up in the story and suffocate himself.
3. Kasich because it kneecaps one of his competitors
4. Some weirdo Democrat, Republican or other flavored political operative just because that’s how these operatives get their jollies
5. Sanders, see No.1.
6. The GOPe who hate Cruz, though he’s been living on their dime for a very long time–past associations and employment, etc.
7. The Democrat elites for all the obvious reasons.
It will all pass by soon enough, and the next scheduled scandal is already warming up on the bench, ready to go. And months to go with this soap opera.
61 thoughts on “Saturday Open Thread || March 26, 2016”
Morning all,
Been a helluva week. Between yet another self-inflicted attack in Europe and yet another week of Obama disrespecting everything that is good about America it’s one that I’m hoping I can put behind me sooner rather than later.
Coffee’s down to the last cup and on way out the door for a day of yard work (or at least however long this ol fart’s bones can handle)so wishing you all a great Saturday.
Speaking of java–Lee, where are you?
Lee is out here, over on WZ.
The people that voted Obama in for 8 terrible years should be hunted down and given a lobotomy !
There is no excuse for this!
Yes they should. It is obvious that they are stupid.
Maybe water boarding them??
Yes and then shock treatments.
Careful–they may be saying that about Trump voters in a couple of yrs…LOL.
Lobotomy ?
Why waste your time on air.
Will everyone please put on their tin foil hat for a few minutes and share their thoughts on the Cruz rumors of infidelity. I realize the media has ginned it up with Trump photo tweets into the mix and suggesting it really was Rubio’s camp that started it all.
Basically, I am asking:
Who profits from this tabloid talk?
Is it part of the so-called 100-day attack on Trump?
What is Kasich’s angle and how does he play into it, if at all?
Is there a cabal of other GOPers that lit the fire this past week, who want a brokered convention [read: control]? Who are they?
I wish I could but even a tinfoil hat isn’t enough to protect me from this latest new low. I had such high hopes for the 2016 cycle and now? Well, I’d be put in permanent mod jail if I wrote what I really think right now.
Only thing I DO know is that the Nat Enquirer has surprised the MSM with the truth before. (Hart, Edwards et al)
Too early to tell if this the beginning of something bigger.
What I do find satisfying though is that Jeff Roe, the sleaze of Missouri politics is getting a dose of his own medicine.
Keep in mind that Cruz’s PAC started it by putting out pictures of Melania that were 15 years old when she was a model and before Trump married her.
Families should be off limits.
Agree. And while I do not have concrete proof, I also have no doubt that Roe had involvement. That’s just the guttersnipe that he is.
If it now blows up in his face, well………..:)
that was not a Cruz superpac. that was an anti-Trump group. perpetuating inaccuracies is not helpful.
I’m just going on what has been posted on other sites.
If you have more accurate information please share it csinnm.
I wonder where we’d be if Trump has tweeted: “See how beautiful my wife is and she’s smart, too, and cares about making her adopted country as great as she thought it was when she came here.” More than 140 chars but you get where I am going.
Instead he went with my wife is red hot, you’re wife ain’t diddly squat–or words to that effect.
Then why didn’t Cruz call them out ?
He should have! I am not 100% sure he didn’t know about it… Maybe Kasich knows all about that creep Soros’s activities too–maybe Kasich is the Manchurian Candidate–maybe they are all liars and jerks…As I have said, I don’t trust any–and now it’s I can hardly stomach any. And their little running dogs, too, Lewandowski, Rove, Stone, Eric Bolling, and anyone else you can name.
Thanks, csinnm, you are right. Fox News has kept it up even though it is false.
You need to get your facts straight before you go off posting fiction. That was NOT Cruz’ pac. It is a anti_TRUMP pac and Cruz had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. Now Trump is BFF with Pecker over at the sleaze rag national enquirer and I believe Trump Had EVERYTHING to do with the sleazy rumor regarding Cruz wife. If Ms Trump had kept
Her clothes on maybe her nudie pic wouldnt plastered all over the internet.
I do know one thing for sure – if Cruz gets the nomination I will do the ‘unthinkable’ – vote for Hillary. And it’s not b/c of the Nationl Enq. rumors.
‘Lyin’ Cruz is a sneaky, sleazy, underhanded phony who tried to ride Trump’s coattails for the first six months, and when he achieved a modicum of ‘recognition’ from the media and the public, he went into overdrive with his dirty bag of tricks.
Cruz, IMO, orchestrated the entire ‘wife’ baiting spectacle on his own. It’s his style. He is milking it for every drop he can get. He’s loving it!
Did anyone see the Heidi/Ted ‘Kiss’ this morning? With their little daughter standing next to them?? It was just a few seconds shorter than the Tipper/Al ‘kiss’ a few years ago.
Personally, I dismiss all the ‘infidelity’ rumors. He must be short on women voters, most of whom probably find him less than appealing.
I was just reading Don Surber and found this:
Last July, a Cruz-affiliated super PAC donated $500,000 to Fiorina’s campaign, without explanation — a highly unusual move that is being reexamined in light of the Enquirer’s report about Cruz’s indiscretions. And Fiorina made a highly publicized last-minute endorsement of Cruz in the final days before the Florida primary, helping him come in a respectable second to Trump and keeping his White House hopes alive.
I will not vote for Hillary under any circumstances.
It’s all so sordid.
The only one who is smiling is Hillary. It’s a ‘fait accompli’, IMO.
I smell ANYBODY BUT THE NOMINEES in the air…The big national WASH YOUR HAIR day.
Cruz can’t be as bad as Hillary.
She’s dealt in crooked propositions for years.
The last one I want to see back in the WH is Hillary.
I do know how bad HRC is, AFVet.
The problem is we have no idea what this messianic closet Pentecostal nut case will do if given absolute power. Carpet bomb the ME? Imprison all Muslims?
He scares me to death.
Once again it looks like to me that we are going to have to hold our nose and vote, or not vote at all.
But, have faith, it is still early.
I am concentrating on who can be best stopped or thwarted by Congress–assuming Reps can get elected there downticket. But my vote will not be a part of it. I just can’t.
It’s a fine kettle of pisces when you can’t tell the pander from the platform…
And I feel the same way about that sleaze dog Trump. Only I will be voting Sanders cuz Shillary doesnt have a prayer
Girly1, as a Canadian I have no right to comment on the US election, but wouldn’t voting for Shrillary be a bit like “cutting off your nose to spite your face”?
Here you go Sadie.
Now keep in mind that this is a Trump ad and to my knowledge Trump supporters are not disrupting the rallies for the liberal candidates, nor the rallies for the republican candidates.
You mentioned Kasich, it has come to light that George Soros has donated $700,000 to Kasich’s PAC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQPI85SB8Mc
Thanks for the link. The ending “Did Anyone Think The People Destroying America Were Going To Relinquish Power Peacefully?” is very powerful and explains exactly what is happening. The left and GOPe are so threatened by Trump that they’ll do everything possible to prevent his becoming president. Soros is paying protesters all across the country and should be jailed for trying to influence an election.
A Kasich PAC…separate from him…The ads where the candidate says I approved this message come from the candidate. And we already talked about why Soros is doing this… or could be doing this. Oh, this is a giant ball of tactics now–it will take more than a kitten to untangle this yard.
…yarn. Darn, I miss vision. Wah wah.
You need a dog Star.
Or maybe a laughing Fox.
Do need a dog…you’re right. Not sure on the laughing fox thing…should I “get” that?
Never mind–see below the laughing fox… On the Nat Geo show Bandit Patrol, foxes look a little cranky.
Well then YOU should have a pet Fox.
He’s only as big as a cat.
Cranky is as cranky does.
What are you sayin’? LOL. Maybe a Rottie in case you come over?
Nah, no Rottie.
You need something that you can snuggle with.
Maybe a Yorky.
This is clearly a case for Chief Inspector Clouseau of the French Sûreté. He and only he can reach ze bottom of this case. Ze very bottom!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Sellers_pinkpanther7.jpg
Mais oui, mon ami.
The last I read was $200,000 on OpenSecrets.org
Wouldn’t be a bit surprised if Soros upped the ante.
The elite and entrenched are in full riot gear literally and figuratively.
I found MOTUS to be perfectly attuned today.
It’s on Keith’s blogroll or,
http://www.michellesmirror.com/2016/03/theyre-not-on-your-side-no-matter-which.html#disqus_thread
D
MOTUS ROCKS !
The cui bono–who profits?– on this one is a challenge. You could argue that everyone in this rodeo, except for Cruz and company–might be the beneficiary.
1. Hillary and company because it puts a bad light on her R competitors
2. Trump because Cruz gets caught up in this web of weirdness and gets weaker. Trump just lets Cruz get tangled up in the story and suffocate himself.
3. Kasich because it kneecaps one of his competitors
4. Some weirdo Democrat, Republican or other flavored political operative just because that’s how these operatives get their jollies
5. Sanders, see No.1.
6. The GOPe who hate Cruz, though he’s been living on their dime for a very long time–past associations and employment, etc.
7. The Democrat elites for all the obvious reasons.
It will all pass by soon enough, and the next scheduled scandal is already warming up on the bench, ready to go. And months to go with this soap opera.
Here’s a pet Arctic Fox that laughs.
Really !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPMXUbKX2yc
Donald J. Trump is a boor, plain and simple.
That’s a given…the other parts of him, the lying, the fomenting, the vague elect-me-and-find-out positions–those are equally worrisome.
He is the smartest guy in the room.
You must like the Hildabeast. and voted for the majickneegrow
How the DNC Rigged Arizona for Hillary: “Long Lines and Old-Fashioned Voter Suppression”
http://www.shtfplan.com/conspiracy-fact-and-theory/how-the-dnc-rigged-arizona-for-hillary-long-lines-and-old-fashioned-voter-suppression_03242016
Like trump is the bad guy – not
The convoluted rules that they have ensconced in this process on both sides is amazing.
Thanks for the link.
There can be more than one bad guy, unfortunately.
I think we are in the minority here.
Don’t shoot the messenger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMLrUeYsHrI
Maybe you should look up the messenger–Stone.
I was referring to me.
This an open thread, and your opinion is welcomed.
I posted a video, I did not produce it, nor do I necessary agree with it.
I knew you meant you–but Stone is a tricky one…
They all are.
So true. Sigh.
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