As of now, I am in control here, in the White House

156 Responses to Open Thread || Thursday, August 6, 2015

    • Good morning. I think I may still have pizza for this evenings meal, so I won’t be hanging over the kitchen counter to avoid missing a statement.

  1. Barry is putting in all of about maybe an hour of “work” this afternoon. That’s because, as usual, their family and friends are all in DC this week getting ready to go with them on vacation to Martha’s Vineyard on Saturday. It’s the vacation before the vacation.

    THURSDAY, AUGUST 6, 2015

    In the afternoon, the President will participate in a video conference with citizens nationwide to commemorate the 50th Anniversary of the Voting Rights Act. The President will be joined by Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch and Congressman John Lewis, along with advocates and officials who have worked to strengthen and protect Americans’ right to vote. The video conference will be livestreamed at


    9:30AM In-Town Travel Pool Call Time

    2:10PM THE PRESIDENT participates in a video conference to commemorate the 50th Anniversary of the Voting Rights Act

    Roosevelt Room

    Livestreamed at

    Briefing Schedule

    12:30PM Press Briefing by Press Secretary Josh Earnest

  2. Rise and shine boys and girls. Time to earn your keep and keep it going.

    We’ve received word this morning that the enemy has regrouped and is again on the march with a renewed intensity. Evil Republicans have aligned themselves with Iranian terrorists and must be defeated if our great leader is to protect his legacy and restore the great Empire of Persia to its rightful place among nations of the world.

    geoff….Geoff…….GEOFF!!!!!!!!!!!! Wake up your going to be late for work.

    Man was that some nightmare I was having. President Obama had actually accused opponents of his Iran giveaway as no different than the hardline Mullahs shouting Death to America.

    I mean, it HAD to be a dream right? No President would ever equate debating the most serious national security issue facing America this century with siding with terrorists.

    But this isn’t a President, this is Obama and he could give a damn about American security as long as he gets his legacy.

    And this isn’t a dream, it is a nightmare in reality of the worst extreme. Whoever, whatever you believe is beyond this earthly realm I beseech thee, plead, pray, beg, bargain, whatever you have to do to see that this country survives to the end of the demagogue’s reign.

    We now return you to our regularly scheduled program.

    • Good stuff Geoff
      Our President is delusional….someday there will be an excellent expose written about this era. Its at a point where he ACTUALLY believes what he is saying, strange happenings for sure.

      My 86 year old mom said she had to shut the TV off yesterday. She has seen a lot in her time, and she is disgusted by this man’s statements.

      A uniter he is not, never was…just the Emperor with no clothes…


      • Harv Sibley I appreciate your mother’s reaction.
        My dad and Grandfather always discussed history/current news while I was growing up. I always think of what they would be saying about him as well.
        By the way, I just read on WZ that: No charges against officer who fired gun at the maniac in TN.

      • Even on MoJoe, they could not stomach calling Reps equal to mean terrorists–well, Mika could, but Joe no. Joe also challenged his statement that this decision was so easy-peasy even a dopey Republican could get it right. Or however he put it.

        • Haven’t heard any pundits or journalistas criticize Obama for his glaring omission yesterday at American University.

          I posted this late last night in a reply to Snark:

          One of the Jewish leaders that Obama met with yesterday was on Cavuto today – Nathan Diament, Director of Orthodox Union Advocacy Center. His organization is opposed to the deal.

          He made a very important point:
          What Obama did NOT deny is that, if nothing else, this deal gives more strength, more power and more resources to the Regime. Obama admits that it is an offensive and odious and terrible Regime that conducts terrorism against innocent people across the region…and giving strength to that Regime is a bad act.

          Obama likes to use the analogy that decades ago we negotiated an arms control agreement with the Soviets. But, at the same time, we basically had a policy of REGIME CHANGE with the Soviets (which was ultimately successful under Reagan).

          What Obama has NOT said here is that he is going to do the deal in order to delay the acquisition of nuclear weapons, BUT IN THE MEANTIME HE WILL WORK VIGOROUSLY TO CHANGE THE REGIME SO THAT BY THE TIME THE DEAL IS OVER IN 15 YEARS, WE DON’T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT ANYMORE.
          What Obama is saying here is the deal is a good deal even if Iran doesn’t change!!!

          ***All we have to do is look back to the Arab Spring when Obama ignored the youthful protesters and the bloodshed – eventally announcing that he stood with the Ayatollah!!

          • Your post reminded me of when Obama visited the MidEast in June 2009. Oh, it was a new beginning with his administration, etc. He trotted his butt all over the Mideast to speechify about how grand he was. The only major country he did not visit on that tour was, you guessed it, Israel.

    • Well done! On the question of Obama’s legacy, history will not be kind to Obama, nor should it be kind. Oh, he’ll have a legacy alright. All presidents do. As time wears on, books will be written about his presidency. People who have observed him close up and personal will reveal what they have seen and heard. It’s not going to be a pretty picture.

      Damian Thorne.

    • What is even worse or at least as bad as the President of the United States equating Republicans with Iranian terrorists is that he has created such an atmosphere of distrust in this country that many people are afraid to complain to the WH directly for fear of some kind of political reaction from his good squads at DOJ or IRS.

  3. Found somewhere on the net …

    “Is his candidacy more lunatic than the idea of a third President Bush or a second President Clinton?

    More despairing than the idea of an America so bereft of political talent that two families supply the major pool?

    Is he less venal or arrogant than Hillary “it’s my server and it’s my State Department” Clinton?

    Is anything Trump has said more staggering or depressing than the idea that in egalitarian America, a couple of small-time business owners can get fined $135,000 for not baking a cake?

    More absurd than banning American soldiers the right to bear arms on their own bases and their home soil?

    More absurd than Fort Hood’s slaughter of 13 by a self-professed jihadi being labeled “workplace violence”?

    To which I add, Geoff Caldwell’s comment, because it’s worth repeating:
    ” Evil Republicans have aligned themselves with Iranian terrorists and must be defeated if our great leader is to protect his legacy and restore the great Empire of Persia to its rightful place among nations of the world.”

  4. I wish I could see the debate but unfortunately we can´t watch FOX live and it will be in the middle of the night for me.
    I read that Jeb Bush has started calling Trump names. Nervous ? I think it is great fun to see how Trump has shaken up the politicians. I see many parallells with the rebel-parties over here in Europe. People have no trust in the establishment anymore and go for those who dare to provoke, to tell truths. I remember with great fondness how Trump dared to call for that birth certificate….please, do it again even if Barry soon retires because we still haven´t seen the real one. I don´t want Barry to get away with it.
    I hope that Trump can give Jeb Bush a real match tonight. I also hope that Rand Paul will do well.

    • This is going to be interesting.
      You might try c-span to see if they are going to run them live.
      At any rate, there will be plenty of sound-bytes available tomorrow.

      How’s your bees ?

      • I wonder if it will be like over here, that the leader of our “rebel-party”, Sverigedemokraterna, has turned the rules somewhat upsidedown. No matter what “scandals” media are brewing for him , he is up in the polls. And that is because people can see that he, unlike the media and the other politicians , is telling the truth about the problems with our immense immigration, the import of people with utterly different culture etc. So hopefully Trump can survive some of the traps they probably are rigging for him. I believe that Jeb Bush can be a nasty fellow.
        Our bees are just fine and delivering a delicious honey. We will harvest once again , now in August. How are your little friends ?

        • I don’t keep bees, however there is still a major problem over here with the mites that are attacking them.
          Do you have the same problem ?

          • Yes, we have problems with the varroa-mites. I want to be an ecological bee-keeper so I stay away from poisonous treatments as much as possible. We have tried thymol products with good results.

          • I live in town and we cannot have bee hives here.
            I helped my Dad for years tend his hives.
            His were on farms.
            One year, Dad planted some Buckwheat right in front of the hives and the honey they made looked like maple syrup (dark brown) and tasted fantastic.

            Good luck on your beekeeping.
            They are amazing little creatures.

    • The reports of MrBush calling MrTrump a buffoon or a clown or worse is just a transparent attempt to set off some fireworks tonight.
      They, don’t know who all, maybe even the Bush campaign, wants MrTrump to retaliate in public, at the most watched debate yet.

      Dirty politics, just like the report that MrClinton urged MrTrump to enter the Repub race. I’m not sure that happened the way it’s reported, and again, “they” are looking to stir the waters and muddy everything.
      We don’t trust the MSM at all, so why anyone should believe these things is a wonder.

    • We differ on this, SL–none of this is fun to me (I think of the friends I lost to their Kool-Aid guzzling, the time this has taken from my career, the rage with my wonky heart issues, etc.) And once this man leaves office, I don’t care if he was born on the late great Pluto. We all know his background is dodgy–just go away, I say.

      • Sorry to hear that, Star. I know that talking politics can be really hurtful in many ways if you are a dissident. “Great fun” was a bit frivolous,I agree, let´s say I find it interesting, even refreshing, that the other politicians and most of all, the mainstreammedia, gets something to think hard about. I don´t know yet about Trumps real views on foreign politics, he might be worse than Barry, so I am still on the ringside there. But I , an outsider, want him to remain in the game. But I think that Rand is my sweetheart. As it is right now.

        • Don’t apologize–I get how you meant it–I am not a Trump fan, as maybe you noticed. He flips and flops betw parties, ideas, and talks plenty–but can he do any of this? I have my doubts. And I don’t think he would EVER give up his “magnificent business” to a blind trust.

    • If only the Trumpster had decided to shake thingsup 4 years ago, we might not be in this mess today.

      So far, Trump has succeeded in destroying most of the GOP slate – while HRC has escaped his wrath. ‘She is the worst SOS in history’ – that’s it.

      I happen to agree with Trump – that most of the GOP slate is weak and unelectable. The question is…will there be life after Trump? Can any of the others beat HRC? Right now, a Carly v. Hillary sounds good to me. And besides, what fun that would be – the war on women, lol.

  5. I don’t know why FOX decided to have the first debate at 5:00……some of us are not home from work yet…..why didn’t they have it at 7:00 and 9:00??

  6. I have 2 questions for the debate.

    1. Why are you all lying and pretending to do things that later you will not do?

    2. Why has no one stopped Obama from destroying our country?

  7. Graham Hates sending money for oil to people who hate our guts. He through that comment in twice.
    Petaki notes how divided we are. Great point.
    Jindal by the way has done a great job here. I don’t believe the poll that was mentioned.

    • Great comment by Jindal regarding how he would handle ISIS. Give our troops every opportunity.
      Graham if you don’t stop them there. They will come here. He called them ISIL.

  8. I can’t believe this. Martha McCallum asks these candidates about Donald Trump — is he getting the better of you?

    I think this is inappropriate — hey Martha, ever hear of Hillary? Anyway, stupid.

  9. Only viable candidate in this broadcast is Fiorina – quick and sharp responses that are on point.
    Graham and Perry are embarrassing themselves. Spouse says Perry is the epitome if “used car salesman.” And we are former Texans.
    The remainder are space fillers. Running for President must be lucrative.
    In my experience, every person of India(n) descent lie. It is their culture. That is not a racist remark but an observation based on many years of experience. Jindal blew it for me years ago with the Republican rebuttal to the state of the union.
    What is Pataki doing there – who knew he was running!?!?!
    Santorum? Does he know anything?
    Gilmore? Who is he?
    Previous remarks are made with an admittedly high degree of sarcasm.

    • I like Carly.
      For most of the broadcast she appeared to be the only adult on the stage.
      The rest of them are politicians.
      You can tell she isn’t.

  10. I like Jindahl.

    And it should be about Medicaid not Kasich. What is is about Hemmer and McCallum calling out individual Republican candidates? If that’s the way Fox is going to pitch these debates it’s a fail.

  11. Perry said: 150 billion to a Country that has killed our men and woman. He said he would rather have Fiorina. Good one
    Fiornia will call Netanyahu standing by him. Than call Iran leader let them know we will make this difficult, by stopping the money flow
    Hold camp David summit what is it you need to defeat Isil?
    2 ck marks

  12. Re: tonight’s first “debate” (which is not a debate in any sense of the term)–

    There’s an adage (based on many studies) that says 95 percent of TV viewers forget 95 percent of what they hear in 9.5 minutes after they heard it. They do remember how they “feel” about a candidate, in this case, long after the candidate or speaker has spoken. Something to remember during these debates.

    At any rate, this 5 pm debate, the first one, seemed like a stew made up of one part spelling bee, one part the Jeopardy game show and one part Court TV. I thought the questions posed were not well thought out, the general format not conducive to detailed answers. No doubt Carly took the trophy, though. The crisp, articulate answers we got from her put the others, generally, to shame. But overall it was just a terrible format. I expected a comedian to come on stage at any time to break up the monotony.

    I don’t blame the candidates at all; it was just the format which seemed incredibly awkward for all. I don’t have the answer to what would be a better format, but there surely must be a better way to present these candidates in an intelligent, incisive manner to highlight their strengths and weaknesses.

    We’ll see how tonight’s debate goes.

    • I agree. And it wasn’t the candidates at fault. Some people suggest a one on one would have been better.

      I was not impressed with Hemmer or McCallum and I guess I said what I have to say about MK. Brett will do the professional job he always does.

    • I’m so over Fox. I almost boycotted the debate because I got so sick and tired of Fox pimping this debate morning, noon, and night for a freaking week. I’ve never seen anything like this before. For crying out loud, it was simply the very first debate in a primary race for an election that’s fifteen months away. Fox has acted like it’s the biggest presidential, (not primary), debate in the history of the world. They were just giddy over Trump being a ratings draw. Frankly, they should send Trump flowers tomorrow with a big thank you note.

      • For Fox, this circus is a moneymaker and nothing more. 8 more debates to go and they are licking their chops at anticipated ad revenues. Boy, oh boy, we is gonna get rich!

        And if you hadn’t yet decided about the winners/losers of the debate, their post-debate show would direct you on how to think about it all. Grand Poobah Hume was there to make sure the panelists and viewers had the correct, Ailes-approved opinion of who did well and who had to go.

      • Grace, I hope you got to hear Carly on the earlier debate.
        She was right on point and made the rest of them look like amateurs.
        She won that one hands down.

        • We DVR’d the 5 pm debate and will have to catch it tomorrow night or over the weekend. I can’t wait to see it. I saw Bill O’Reilly’s show earlier tonight and he said Carly won the debate hands down,no question about it. He seemed very impressed.

          I personally think Carly is sharper and more intelligent than most of these candidates put together. Hopefully, now that a lot of people have had the opportunity to see and hear Carly her poll ratings will begin to increase.

          • I hope that happens. She seems to have to work so much harder to get the attention she deserves, but I know that’s an old story for professional women. It’s a crime that she didn’t get to be in the top tier for this debate, but she’ll get there.

      • x3 re: Dr. Carson’s closing statement.

        I was very surprised to see Christie READING his closing statement. Sheesh!

        (Sorry for the caps used for emphasis. I really miss the old format of this site, where we could use bold or italics).

      • Very interesting that you used that term “full of herslef”. That is exactly what I said to my husband tonight, and have been saying for at least a couple of months. I’m finally getting sick of most of the Fox News crew.

    • No question about it. They want Trump out of the picture and to do so they asked him more gotcha questions than they others, by far. They are good little soldiers and so very proud of themselves. Roger Ailes will be very pleased with them. Big bonus coming their way.

      • No doubt. But Trump’s popularity is confounding them and will continue to do so. It’s fun seeing the media, (including Fox), and the establishment Republicans all in a tizzy over Trump coming in and ruining things for Bush.

        Drudge has a link at the top of his site for his own poll. Here are the results so far (Go take the poll, everyone!):

        Thank you, we have already counted your vote. Please tell your friends you voted!


        4,578 votes

        18,106 votes

        2,532 votes

        27,389 votes

        6,198 votes

        8,797 votes

        17,020 votes

        17,209 votes

        66,631 votes

        8,190 votes

        176,649 Total Votes

        Posted 3 hours.

        See this poll on:

        • “….the establishment Republicans all in a tizzy over Trump coming in and ruining things for Bush.”

          And that is the root cause of the anti-Trump movement in the Republican machine. Jeb is their dreamboat candidate, and Trump is in the way. He didn’t ask their permission to run for President and, boy, they are ticked. That fat little twerp Rove is a part of this “get rid of Trump” movement, you can bet, as well as the Bush machine itself. They think it’s time for little Jeb to be President. The ghost of Samuel Prescott Bush has so decreed.

  13. In other news – IRAN deal: Linked at the top of Drudge tonight:

    Sen. Schumer says he will oppose Iran nuclear deal…

    WASHINGTON — Senator Chuck Schumer, the most influential Jewish voice in Congress, said Thursday night that he would oppose President Obama’s deal to limit Iran’s nuclear program.

    “Advocates on both sides have strong cases for their point of view that cannot simply be dismissed,” Mr. Schumer, Democrat of New York, said in a lengthy statement. “This has made evaluating the agreement a difficult and deliberate endeavor, and after deep study, careful thought and considerable soul-searching, I have decided I must oppose the agreement and will vote yes on a motion of disapproval.”

    Mr. Schumer had spent the last several weeks carrying a dog-eared copy of the agreement in his briefcase and meeting with Mr. Obama and officials like Wendy R. Sherman, the deal’s chief negotiator. With his decision, he paves the way for other Democrats on the fence to join Republicans in showing their disapproval.

    “There are some who believe that I can force my colleagues to vote my way,” Mr. Schumer said. “While I will certainly share my view and try to persuade them that the vote to disapprove is the right one, in my experience with matters of conscience and great consequence like this, each member ultimately comes to their own conclusion.”

    This is going to get interesting. Chuck better not have any skeletons in his closet, or he might end up facing an indictment like Menendez.