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WHD Poll || Which Moderate Would You Choose?

This should be interesting.

Some of you will be mortified. Others won’t mind.

I’m wondering, if you absolutely had to choose between the two candidates in the poll below, whom would you vote for? I don’t want to name them here because the order their names appear in has to be randomized, as they are in the poll below.

I also, for the purposes of the poll, request your political leaning. This is anonymous, of course, I have no way of knowing how you voted on either question.

I’ll keep it open until tomorrow morning and release the results then.



122 thoughts on “WHD Poll || Which Moderate Would You Choose?”

      1. Moderation isn’t.
        Just what are the parameters to land you in moderation ?
        Is it traffic on the site ?
        Is it certain names or terms or phrases that people use ?
        Just exactly what determines who goes into moderation ?
        Inquiring minds want to know.

  1. I am a non-affiliated voter in Oregon which does not allow us to vote in primaries, but I’ll sit back and enjoy all your comments as it lets me off the hook.

          1. Yes but,…but,….they’re both rich and only want the best for this Country !
            And,…and ,…Jeb comes from a family that loves America………
            And,…and,… Mittens is a fighter when it comes to health care for all.

            God help US.

          2. Mitt could run things, think, attract smart people, and not embarrass us or hurt us. But can he get elected…I think he has worn out his welcome. I sure hope we are not doing the Mittens thing ad infinitum. Yawn.

      1. By the way, since we are off topic, I am THRILLED that my long disdain of Dr Mehmet (I never met poo I didn’t love) Oz is being confirmed by the British Medical J, which more or less has called him out as wrong more than half the time! Bam!

        1. Oh my gosh, here I thought I was the ONLY Dr. Oz hater. The man is a modern day snake oil salesman, hawking every pill known to mankind for weight loss, so many that at my local natural foods store, there’s an entire SECTION of Dr. Oz items. His wife has a TV show too (not seen it however) and his daughter is on The Chew and claims to be a lifestyle expert or some such nonsense.

          1. I looked at a “free” face cream dr oz pushed. When looking at the fine, fine, little print, it said you give your credit card #, & you will be shipped the next 6 months of the goo for a charge of $100.00/month! You have to call & cancel or it keeps coming.
            Yep, snake oil salesman.

  2. Answers were easy for me.
    Gets back to the lesser of two evils.
    This is what I’m afraid of will happen in the next election.
    I want to see someone that is cut and dried ahead of the liberals, not someone that is a squish.

  3. “If you had to choose one of these candidates for president, whom would you choose?”
    Gosh. That’s like asking if I would rather be stabbed in the eye with a fork or a butter knife!

  4. I am a moderate/libertarian on ‘social issues’ on how I Live my life and how you all Live… “life, liberty & pursuit of happiness”
    But I am a US Veteran & Conservative when it comes to defending the USA and Foriegn Policy/National Security… “Peace Thru Superior Firepower”/”kill them all…”/”nuke them orbit…”

    ~~Trust me, I have gotten into many disputes, arguments at CPACs & LI schools over the years with many ‘Republicans/conservatives’ over my political views…

      1. But Star,
        “they” want to ‘kill us all’…
        (i.e. Koran)

        Dont forget the Communist Chinese dont like us… and Russia has been getting kinda uppity lately…

      2. They want to kill all of us, why not retaliate ?
        I’m with you Spook.
        Kill them before they kill us.

        If they want to see Allah,….let’s help them out.

          1. I agree, and my English teachers always taught us not to use the words “majority” or “most” either. Still, I am disturbed that I see only a few Muslims speaking out against the militants and terrorists. It gives me the impression that the others are cowed and afraid to speak out. That’s not good. Think of Germany in the Thirties and Forties. Then there is the duplicitous CAIR.

          2. Or, maybe they approve but don’t want to be ostracized from civil society by speaking the truth. If they read their Koran, they know what Islam’s perfect man did and what they’re commanded to do.

            CAIR’s nothing but an unindicted conspirator to kill Jews via the Holy Land Foundation.

            Every time a Muslim performs zakat, she or he is directly funding jihad.

          3. The heathens want to kill us all.
            The barbarians want to kill anybody that will not conform to their dictates, i.e. Sharia law
            THAT is what we are talking about.

            I couldn’t care less if you are a Christian, a Jew, or a Muslim.
            But if you threaten me, there is going to be hell to pay.

            The innocent Muslims over there that have lost their lives have to be by now in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions.
            What a shame.

          4. None of this is making this sound more rational. You don’t sound sorry about the collateral damage–maybe you are, I don’t know. Just bec people don’t speak out does not mean they agree–and this also does not lead back to the Nazis all the time. Blustery statements about slaughtering people just don’t accomplish much. Yes, we should head off, spy on, fight and kill the ones out to hurt us. No argument. But whole populations are on the move, people leaving their houses in pajamas, total misery, starvation–and these are aspects we also need to consider.

          5. The Nazis are a paradigm for terror and totalitarianism. So I don’t feel the least uncomfortable referring to Sharpton as a Nazi type or comparing the acquiescent silence of the Germans to the silence of the “moderate” Muslims. It’s a recurring pattern in history even if there is no direct descent.

          6. People leaving their houses in pajamas.
            Why Star ?
            Could it be that they no longer like the neighborhood ?
            Maybe they are running for their lives ?
            Willing to risk starvation to get to a better place.

          7. About 100 foreign fighters have been executed for wanting to quit the Islamic State.

            Let me whip out my violin and play a funeral dirge.

            Not.

          8. “Fight those among the People of the Book [Christians and Jews] who do not believe in Allah nor the Last Day, who do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, and who do not embrace the religion of truth [Islam], until they pay the jizya with willing submissiveness and feel themselves utterly subdued” (Koran 9:29).

  5. O/T
    This has been a reoccurring thought for a couple days:
    I am a short, old, white woman.
    Until Michelle’s recent revelation, I did not know that short and white qualified me as a racist.

    When I need something off the top shelf in a store, I either stand on a lower shelf and stretch to reach – or – look for a tall person to help me. Cannot recall EVER thinking that I must look for a tall black person to help me. Nope…just look for a tall person.

    News flash, Michelle – you are tall.

    However, I doubt that that particular event ever occurred.

    1. I can’t resist an OT either. The Cuba thread is old news, but I like what Patrick Buchanan, quoting JFK, said about the deal: Obama traded a horse for a rabbit. Or as I like to say, he bought a pig in a poke. Still, it’s all for his legacy so what does he care.

  6. Breaking news: two policemen ambushed in New York. Both in critical condition. I hope the police tell De Blasio that he also is not welcome visiting in the hospital.

    1. “I’m Putting Wings on Pigs Today,” a person believed to be the gunman wrote on Instagram in a message posted just three hours before the officers were shot through their front passenger window.

          1. It’s on several sites. It’s probably in the NY Daily News by now. It’s a photo of him on a stretcher on the way to the hospital or morgue.

    2. So are Barry, Sharpton, De Blasio, et al happy now?? I want to hear from each one of them about this! The blood is on their hands!!

      Thoughts and prayers to the victims and their families.

      1. Just saw where Sharpton condemned the shooting of the two officers. Are you bleeping kidding me??? He lives in a bubble of ignorance as much as the president.

        I agree, blood is on his hands. It is especially on Eric Holder’s hands and the O’s hands. I am sickened by this cowardly act.

    1. X2000. And Commissar deblasio who has a new fence and moat around the house. Even in Hawaii this blood is on Obama’s hands. He annointed Sharpton and this is the result. Bet Holder has to read about this or see it on the news.

      The other day I noted how few people showed up at a support the police rally.

      Squarely on your shoulders Barack Eric Al and Bill.

      1. The NYPD fraternal organization just a few days ago requested that DeBlasio not attend any NYPD funerals. It might have been the NY Mayor also.
        Can’t think straight right now, my heart burns with white hot fury.
        That’s shameful.

  7. Re. the very sad NYP execution.

    I don’t know if we are a nation of cowards or not, but we have been cowed. Not one media or political or humanitarian person so far has come up and put the blame squarely where it belongs.

    You would think Al Sharpton had become the ghost of Christmas past or something.

          1. At the press conference, De Blasio called the murderer a “heinous person” – yet, it was this kind of person he aligned himself with during the recent protests against the police.

  8. OT Obama releases GITMO prisoners back to Afghanistan.

    Why doesn’t he just arm them and drop them into the field where our soldiers are?

  9. Another OT by Cisco.
    Just yesterday, Mayor Emanuel and Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy gave televised statements that crime was down in Chicago. It’s not, but with more than 10 people shot this week, they both like to spew the same be that crime is down.
    Sadly Emanuel’s son was beaten and robbed very near their home.

    1. On the scale of humanity it is sad about Emmanuel’s son. No one deserves that.

      It is sadder that his father, refusing to deal honestly with the issue of crime in his city, created an environment that enhanced the possibility of this happening. On a Chicago scale the son is very lucky that he is still breating.

  10. A wee bit OT, but sorta close—

    The RINO that the big MSM “supports” as the Republican candidate (and we know with metaphysical certainty they will only support a RINO), is the candidate that is absolutely guaranteed to lose the Presidential election. We can be sure of that

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