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Want to Know Obamacare Costs? Vote First.

People planning to use the Obamacare exchanges to purchase health insurance will have to wait until after Election Day to find out how much premiums have risen, according to the Washington Times.

Now I wonder why that’s happening?

According to the Times:

Enrollment on the website begins Nov. 15, or 11 days after the midterm vote, and critics who worry about rising premium hikes in 2015 say that’s no coincidence. Last year’s inaugural enrollment period on the health-care exchange began Oct. 1.

“This is more than just a glitch,” said Tim Phillips, president of free-market Americans for Prosperity, in a Friday statement. “The administration’s decision to withhold the costs of this law until after Election Day is just more proof that Obamacare is a bad deal for Americans.”

Robert Laszewski, president of Health Policy and Strategy Associates, said in a Monday column in USA Today that “when it comes to a lack of openness and transparency about Obamacare, this administration has no peer.”

Even so, details about cost increases are trickling out in states with pivotal Senate contests: Alaska, Iowa and Louisiana. All three states are wrestling with double-digit premium hikes from some state insurance companies on the exchange, which has fueled another round of Republican attacks on the Affordable Care Act.

Even so, price hikes may not be as bad as some thought, and the increases in those three states may be outliers. Bad luck, Democrats. PriceWaterhouseCoopers’ Health Research Institute reported Oct. 3 an average premium increase of 5.9 percent.

Still the late enrollment was planned long ago, presumably with the thought in mind of preventing people from voting their reaction.

34 thoughts on “Want to Know Obamacare Costs? Vote First.”

  1. This Administration lies and withholds. And Americans have to fight and squabble and wrestle to discern what is true and what is not.

    Can’t believe anything about the effort against ISIS, about Ebola, about the EVirus, about the CA immigrants and what will happen with immigration, about Healthcare costs.

    It is the theater of the absurd . And what is worse some people will vote to continue this. Amazing. And absolutely disheartening.

    1. Spot on Grace. I can’t recall having to doubt every, and I mean every, bit of news or information coming from a previous administration. I appreciate there are some things that need to be couched but in the current group, everything is suspect. Unemployment, job creation, diseases, immigration, and the list could go on and on. It is absurd and sad. I, like you, am disheartened but try and maintain at least some sense of optimism.

    2. Speaking of Ebola, a UN worker with Ebola has died in a hospital in Leipzig, Germany. We have to watch now if one of the nurses comes down with it.

    3. Healthcare is poised to explode (cost wise ) upwards and the ACA has not done a thing about it. Thank Obama and Nancy Pelosi. Oh and don’t worry Obama will have the taxpayers pick up the tab. You know the real inequality thing. That being if you can afford to pay for your family and somebody who is uninsured it’s your duty to do so.

      Health insurance should be like car insurance and should kick in when there are major problems. Can you imagine what an oil change would cost if it was covered under your auto insurance? You don’t bill your car insurance for oil changes or little scratches in your car’s paint job.

      Also – unlike the govt website, auto insurance sites actually work! I pay $24/month for car insurance at Insurance Panda. With healthcare dot gov, it takes me hours to get an unaffordable BS rate. Who can afford $600/month insurance?

      All in the plan. Problems at the end so more can say they tried but couldn’t so now anyone can get an extension, further helping enrollment numbers. Add this to the 38 changes made to the law since passage, the joke continues. But, it’s the law of the land and cannot be changed!

      1. I’d lave to have a $600/mo policy. I had a policy I liked, didn’t love, but like. It had doctors I liked and I could afford it.

        Just got word that I can’t keep the policy. I am getting a new policy, but really don’t know what it is going to cost because it has not been formally approved by the DOI in Georgia (all they can tell me is that it is going to cost me at leat $695/mo but it could be more. I also will not know what it covers until November 15 because details will not be available until then according to the Notice of Cancellation I got.

        The notice suggested that I go to Healthcare.bov, but again, I can’t get any info until November 15.

        So, so much for the “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan (I can’t, and have the documents to prove it).

        So much for the if yoiu like your doctor, you cane keep your doctor (I can’t, and have the documents to prove it).

        So much for the $2500/yr savings we were all going to see (My premium is going to, at a minimun rise 110%).

        And we have that idiot Susan Collins saying it is too late to repeal Obamacare.

        If we can get that Constitutional Convention via the states going, we need to add a 1 line amendment that says “No bill can be passed by congress and signed by the president into law is not binding on the legislative, executive and judicial branches of government and their employees.”

    4. Yes, its a very bad time now. Fear about Ebola is hitting us now and we can’t even believe what Obama tells us as he is always telling lies, him, Rice, all of them, can’t believe a word, such amateurs but dangerous amateurs they are. I just hope a lot of us don’t get Ebola as stupid Obama is letting in Ebola people, the guy just has no brains just stubborness and hostility. And no one stops him — I can’t believe that one little ugly guy can do this to us without Congress and/or the Republicans stopping him from letting that killer Ebola come here in the U.S. All of government should be ashamed of themselves for letting Ebola come here day after day putting all of us at risk. Shame on them just want votes and money all of them. They will pay the price one day for their inaction about Ebola.

    1. Wouldn’t he veto it then? Still, psychologically it would become an important issue in 2016 and put pressure on the Democrats, especially Madame Secretary. I’d to see that snake coil and twist to get out of supporting national health service which she was all for when Obama was still chooming.

          1. Not sure Julie.
            There are 300-400 bills on Harry Reid’s desk that he refuses to bring to the floor for a vote,….all passed by the house.
            There will be many more senate seats up for grabs in 2016 and all we can do is keep the pressure on them to finally listen to the will of the people.
            If Harry retains his position, we are in deep do do.

  2. The biggest print newspaper in AZ had a piece on their website,, dated June 6, 2014 that spelled out how much the large insurance companies were planning to raise their monthly rates for their clients.
    The amounts of increase ranged from @10% to as high as 25%.
    The only health insurance company that was decreasing their premiums was the newly formed co-op called Meritus, who announced that they were lowering their premium by 25% across the board.

    How could the Meritus co-op decrease their premiums by such a large amount when the older established companies were raising theirs; Meritus is an insurance provider created, sponsored, and financed with a massive loan from the HHS, our money, taxpayer’s money.
    There are 25 or so states with these co-ops that are taxpayer funded. The HHS had originally asked Congress for @$6 billion dollars for this project, but had their amount approved at only @$2 billion.

    $2 billion taxpayer dollars are being used to undermine, and undersell, established insurance companies. It is the ultimate single-payer Obamacare plan.

  3. OT,…
    CBS News just stated that the White House will not release Obama’s fund raising costs to the taxpayers, saying that it would embarrass the POTUS.
    Heard that on Glenn Beck.

  4. Those cost increases should be trickled all over the country, but the GOP is probably afraid of those “Republicans want you to die” ads. Sigh.

    Not sure where I read it, but someone said “The Dems are good at selling bad ideas and the GOP is bad at selling good ideas” :D

    1. I heard that one on Fox the other night, but it wasn’t attributed to anyone. Just part of the general truths floating out there.

  5. It’s probably too late to comment on this thread, but reports from the KY Senate debate last night say that McConnell says Obamacare is OK. I still hope I get my wish: the Republicans take the Senate without Mitch McConnell. Solves the problem of having him for Senate Majority Leader. On the other hand, if Grimes wins, H. Clinton will claim it was because she came to bat for her. Glad I don’t live there and have to make a choice between two things of equal evil.

  6. So much for the promise of an open and transparent administration. Premiums will rise substantially (20% or more) for those of us who are self employed but whose policies do not cover the “essential benefits” Obama declared mandatory.

    Obama told us we were too stupid to know better…. I don’t know, why should I have a policy that covers Maternity if I’ve well past the child bearing age? Why should I cover pediatric health, vision and dental care if our children are over 18 years old? Why should I have rehab coverage if I don’t do drugs or have an alcohol problem? No, I’m not the stupid one…Obama who has never worked in the private sector is the one who does not fully understand a free market economy or the importance of CONSUMER CHOICE.

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