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Ex-WH Aide Can’t Say Obama in Situation Room Night of Benghazi

Former National Security spokesman Tommy Vietor was unable to say that President Obama was not in the Situation Room the night of the Benghazi attack, dodging questions about Obama’s whereabouts as the assault unfolded. If Obama was in the Situation Room, Vietor should be able to say because he himself was there in the room.

Further, Vietor at one point suggests Obama was in the White House residence – not even in the Oval Office – for at least part of the time during the attacks after being briefed in the Oval Office late in the afternoon.

That Vietor was in the Situation Room indicates the White House was taking the matter seriously. What the White House has failed to specifically demonstrate is that the president was taking it seriously.

109 thoughts on “Ex-WH Aide Can’t Say Obama in Situation Room Night of Benghazi”

  1. Julie Brueckheimer

    I watched the Bret Baier interview and got the impression that Vietor was in the Situation Room and never saw Obama in there. He claimed that Obama could have been working in some other part of the WH. Maybe ValJar kept him purposely out of there so he could not be held accountable for knowing what was really happening.

      1. As I asked, to what purpose if not to purposely keep him out of the loop so he could not be blamed for anything. On the other hand, if they claim he was fed the video line, that doesn’t bode well for him either.

        1. Who gave the stand down order ? Doesn’t that come from the President? Let’s remember this was before a close election, going in to help could have escalated to greater loss of lives, so I think BO gave the order to cut the losses? A couple of high ranking commanders were relieved shortly thereafter, why? Did they call b.s. on that order?

          1. That’s the critical point: who gave the stand down order? Next question: who ordered the stand down order destroyed? Is it still out there somewhere?

          2. On MoJoe, that annoying Eugene Robinson said the only real scandal was why wasn’t the consulate guarded or something like that. He and David Gregory were spinning like dervishes on meth. Kind of funny to watch. What would they come up with next? Joe was all over it–lies, lies.

          3. Eugene Robinson can put the blame entirely on Hillary. She repeatedly denied Ambassador Stevens et al more security b/c she wanted to keep a low American profile in Libya so as not to offend the Libyans/Muslims. Obama’s Hearts and Minds policy – same policy in Afghanistan/Iraq where many Americans were killed b/c they weren’t allowed to carry loaded weapons.
            The 2 guards at the compound that nite were unarmed Libyans who were also linked to the attack at one time.

          4. Best I can tell the spin is this. Yes, it happened. Tragic. We mourn. But look at all we have done since then to make sure this never happens again. Look, look at our shiny new procedures and security systems. Look, look. It glitters!

          5. …AND, come on, aren’t you sick of all this–you know basically, you know, some stuff–now let it go. When that ambassador was raped and so on, he was probably beyond suffering, let’s just walk it off.

          6. The head of AF/COM at the time, General Ham, is the one who can unlock that mystery. Didn’t he say he had his forces ready to go? Did he get a ‘stand-down’ order? Why didn’t he testify? He was removed almost immediately from his post. Very fishy.

          7. I saw something a while back where Gen. Hamm did go before a committee. And I think he summed it up as well, in the end, it couldn’t be done in time or some such. Very disappointing. And then he went off into retirement.

            I am military all the way. Totally supportive. But I recall being disappointed. Much like I am with Petraeus and a few others that were held in relatively high esteem.

          8. From what I understand General Ham (or that position) only takes orders from the President, unless the President tells him directly to take orders from someone else?

            Ham is definitely our missing link. If he’s still active duty, I’m not sure he can testify against the President. Or what is he being blackmailed with to stay quiet?

          9. Barack Obama is the only person in the known universe who had the Constitutional authority to give the go/don’t go order re the Benghazi event. And we know he did not give the go order. That’s the story.

          10. I’m wondering, though, if it was just a failure not to give a go or if there deliberately was an order, from someone, NOT to go.

          11. I am beginning to think it went down something like this. Obama to Whoever — Do what you think is best. Whoever thought leaving them unassisted because logistics of getting support there and because election and politics and we found the video excuse so they executed that. I do not think Obama even was involved beyond that.

            He failed to properly execute his duties as Commander in Chief is my thinking.

          12. That’s exactly what happened, Grace:

            Mr. Panetta said he and Mr. Obama, along with Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, discussed the attack for 15 minutes in the Oval Office the afternoon of Sept. 11, and also covered an anti-American protest that had broken out that day at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo.

            Testifying to the Senate Armed Services Committee, Mr. Panetta said the president told them to “do whatever you need to do to be able to protect our people there,” though when it came to specifics the president “left it up to us.”

            Read more:

      2. DeniseVB, that’s the Prez’s “leading from behind” gig. He stays away, lets other people deal with the situation, then he criticizes what they did.

    1. I plucked this comment from another website. Now watch the clips and body English.

      “I know someone actively involved in the human intel business. He is trained to read body language when conducting interrogations. He and I watched this video of Brett Baier’s interview with Obama’s National Security Council spokesperson Tom Veiter and he pointed something very interesting. He told me that a clear, even amateurish, “tell” of when someone is lying is when he turns away (i.e., distances himself) from his interlocutor and unconsciously shakes his head in the negative even as he affirms a positive.” Watch the video…

    2. Bingo. I’ve always thought that “plausible deniability” of responsibility is one of Obama’s hallmarks. After all, if you aren’t personally involved in a decision that might have negative implications, you can’t be blamed, can you?

      “Leader” my butt. Obama needs to grow a pair and make a stand, for better or for worse.

  2. I’m going to watch Clint Eastwood’s empty chair speech again. I think it will be even more brilliant looking back at it now.

    1. Hopefully he is going to need his services and hopefully Obama is going to have to pay out of his very deep personal pockets. And hopefully this will impact funding of Mooch’s substantial hardship pay for having to be FLOTUS.

      But as the criminal Clintons prove, this will not affect their post WH years.

    2. Thanks for reminding us. I thought it could have been for the IRS scandal but it looks now like it could be package deal. You are right: I haven’t seen his hiring brought out by anyone else than Keith.

      1. I just went back and read our old comments, some of you were spot on guessing Benghazi and other “fake” scandals. LOL.

        I guessed it was just a political favor to help this guy pump up his resume. :groan:

    3. Hmmm. About this . I saw a comment about it on Twitchy on the Gowdy thread. AND it linked to the WHD site and article.

      Hmmmm. :)

  3. The attack started at 3:40 PM Washington time. Inquiring mind would like to know how he spent his time from then until he took off to Las Vegas.

  4. The answers to the above lead directly to the White House and POTUS. You have to remember the time difference between Benghazi and Washington DC is 6 hours. At 5 p.m. on September 11 2012, President Obama, Vice President Biden and the Secretary of Defense were meeting in the Oval Office. … The attack had been going on for more than an hour, the Ambassador’s whereabouts were unknown, and you have to assume Obama, Biden, and Panetta were talking about what to do.

    The Presidents meeting was at 5 p.m eastern and 4-5 hours before Glen and Tryone were killed. That is one of the reasons there is a cover up, the President froze and failed to act. When Sec of State Hillary Clinton and the President spoke during their 10pm Washington Time phone call, it was 4am in Benghazi; the Ambassador had been dead at the Hospital for more than 2 hours. In that 10 PM Washington time Clinton/Obama phone call, both of them, the President and Hillary Clinton knew it.

    The president was, it appears, in the White House from the time the attack on the Consulate in Benghazi began, at around 2:40 pm ET, until the end of combat at the annex, sometime after 9 p.m. ET. We also know the President and Hillary spoke at 10pm ET. So it should be possible to answer these simple questions as to what the president did the rest of the afternoon and evening (we know the meeting citied above took place from 5pm to 6pm), simply by consulting White House meeting and phone records, and asking the president for his recollections.

  5. Why lie at all? This administration, from the top down, will lie about anything and everything even when they know the truth will out at some point. They knew the lie about the video wouldn’t hold if anyone looked closely, so why lie when a spin or twist of the truth would suffice?
    When the WhiteHouse sent out SecRice to every Sunday news show instead of SecClinton or someone from the StateDept, the dye and the lie was set and the hope was that MsRice’s gavitas, her gender and her race would prevent any serious attack on what she had to say. And, it worked, for a while anyway.

    Why hide the whereabouts of the President that night, why not just lie that he really was in the Situation room or was being briefed all night on the events in Libya? The political considerations of MrO’s re-election could have been protected with some story about al Quiada’s supporters or rabid Bin Laden followers using the date of 9/11 as some sort of remembrance-style riot.

    At the time, there was a lot of speculation that the massacre was a kidnapping gone bad, that AmbStevens was to be held for a ransom to allow MrO to prove his statesmanship, or toughness toward Islamic radicals.
    The speculation was fueled by the panic in the WhiteHouse when it was discovered that MrStevens had died of accidental smoke inhalation and great effort was put out by the Libyans to revive him.
    If you recall, there were only two men in the outpost when the attack occurred, MrStevens and a Turkish envoy of some sort. The mob could have captured either of those two men, but the two hid in a safe room so that fires were set to ‘smoke’ them out into the open. The other men who died from gunshot wounds were openly firing at the mob, and return fire ensued.
    Neither AmbStevens nor the Turkish envoy were shot or shot at by anyone. Why not?
    The Dems are right on two things; dude, it was two years ago and what difference does it make now. If it doesn’t make any difference and it was two years ago, who or what are they still protecting?

    1. I remember Watergate well and it was just a petty little flubbed break-in of an opposing political party. Had Nixon and his goons just thrown their hands up and said “Ooops, we got caught”, there would have been lots of wrist slapping, but I’m sure Nixon would have stayed President.

      But they chose to cover it up with lies, that was their crime, and nobody died either. The Dems wanted blood and started the impeachment process. Nixon resigned to spare the country having to go through that. Obama makes me miss Nixon now.

        1. As the old saying goes nothing but a two bit robbery. Watergate didn’t leave 4 American’s dead while begging for help their dying declarations. Obama has no place to hide.

    2. Well, just like everything else this administration does so haphazardly, they can’t even seem to lie very well.
      Reminds me of my ex.
      Bottom line is, they don’t care what the American people think, at least not now.
      The lie was only to get Obama through the election. At this point, what does it really matter to them what anyone thinks?

    3. I don’t want this thread to go off on a spin, but another example of his lying is the employment statistics released today. Unemployment stands at 6.3 with 288,000 created in April. BUTT 800,000 stopped looking for work in April, and Drudge says the total of Americans not working is 92,594,000. As you say, nothing but lies, lies, lies, and we’re facing a terrible collapse.

      1. And, of course, Obama used the fake numbers to open his Presser with Angela Merkel ! Unemployment for Blacks is 19.1%, btw. Didn’t hear him mention it.

  6. Dude, it was 2 years ago……..what difference does it make? I was waiting for him to say it. How does this puke end up in the Situation Room? For that matter, why would any spokesperson be in there? I thought a spokesperson was left in the dark so they couldn’t answer the questions??

    1. That is what I am wondering? He is at a fairly low level. What was this little schnook doing in the Sit Room?
      The spokesperson speaks the propaganda that the inner circle tells them too. Just like Susan Rice yes?

        1. Perhaps the Situation Room is not all it once was. Vietor, JayZ, Beyonce. Maybe there is another secret special place for the likes of ValJar, Obama, Media Matters.

      1. Washington is awiggle with these little schemers all trying to get a “big job.” I wouldn’t hire any of them to mow my weeds, not that they would know how to. I have “changed” congressional transcripts in my day–yes, it’s common, but in this case, I think he knows changing attacks to demonstration is substantial.

      2. So true, Julie, Dude Tommy Vietor started out driving the press van in the ’08 campaign. and worked his way up. He is now partnering with Obama’s former boy genius speechwriter, Jon Favreau (sp). Pretty scary.

          1. Not sure who they are writing speeches for, but wouldn’t be surprised if it is Shrillary. It’s the twilight zone.

          2. Remember that photo of the shirtless Jon Favreau and other guy playing that drinking game with the beer pong? That other guy was none other than Tommy Dude Vietor.

  7. Had a disturbing thought this morning…one of these days I’m expecting to see Barry at the podium announcing they’ve caught the Benghazi murderers, taking a victory lap and declaring the matter settled. Then the WH can say, “We caught the killers…why are the Republicans dwelling on everything else?” And, of course, there will be no way to find out if they really were the real killers (most likely conveniently eliminated by drones) . It would be just like this administration to pull a stunt like that.

    1. Shame on them. That does nothing to comfort the families these past two years, as THEY all blew this off as nothing important.
      To Late for them!!!!!!!!!!!!

  8. Obama was playng Spades with Reggie during the OBL attack. Said he wasn’t about to sit there (Situation Room) for hours. In other words, he had better things to do.
    Panetta and Dempsey both testified that they never saw or spoke to him after their 30 minute mtg. @ 5:00/
    If anyone wants to know where Obama was on 9/11, they need to subpeona Valjar.

  9. Well, well, well, the breaking headline says John Boehner is seriously considering calling a special select committee.

  10. Putting the Sterling/Bundy race mess into the WH Benghazi context:
    It’s not even been 2 years since 4 Americans were killed and yet we are supposed to just forget it because like, well “Dude, that was two years ago”.
    Soooooooooooo why then all this Eric Holder, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton race hustling? Like DUDES, that whole slavery thing was like 150 years ago!! And those 60’s riots, that was 50 years ago!

  11. Announcement from Boehner’s office that he is forming a Select Committee re. Benghazi. If Gowdy is not on this committee (I am pretty sure they are not best buds) then it will go nowhere.

    Boehner practically has to be strung up to do the right thing. Always, always a

  12. While they are crawling away from giving the facts. They need to be blocked like you could do to a bug, to make it turn around to the start.

    Than they need to tell us TODAY want is being done to protect all of our Ambassador, etc. If they can not release it to us in a grand public anouncement, it should be noted on carbon copied paper what is being done, and kept for our record of needing to know.

    As I have stated before. Poor Nixon!!! He may have done wrong, but nothing compare to this crew! Shame on them all.

  13. If my father were the P. I would have asked him:
    Why didn’t we at least try?
    Why didn’t anyone respond to Ambassodor Stevens request for help?
    Remember Grandpa was shot down from a hill in WWII, and they went to help him. They saved their lives while risking their own.

    Some girls are learning things in school, then come home and see that everything ( The List) is being handled wrong!

    If my father would have been driving the wrong way to work when I was a child. I would have said, Dad, This is the right way to work.
    I would not have let him drive in circles over and over and over and over again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. Geess he was in Las Vegas that night at a fund raiser and then an event with JZ and Beyoncé don’t you guys remember this.

    1. no no, he was still in DC until late the following day, the 12th. he first gave that “historic” speech in the Rose Garden which Candy Crowley said proved that he knew it was terrorism all along.


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    The secta Subud is a special mixture of Java mysticism, magic and the Dharma (originated from India), which is controlled from above, by a theocratic, authoritarian system: The teaching can be interpreted only by the main leader. The Dharma is about the circulation of our world, where the destruction is a natural part of the system, so that is why Shiva can be one of the most important, central God in their religion.
    The Secta is based on ordered relationship hierarchy.
    The secta is led by a very little group of leaders, who hold the most of the economical power of the Subud.
    For an example, they new HQ of the Subud was planned to be built in Jakarta. It would have a special „boat” shape with a huge chimney.

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