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Video || Lerner Takes the Fifth; Cummings Throws a Fit

Former IRS official Lois Lerner, who headed up the division that targeted Tea Party groups, took the Fifth again today during her second appearance before the House Oversight Committee, refusing to answer any questions.

It’s not that she absolutely refuses to testify. She’s haggling with the committee over whether she can get immunity for her remarks and perhaps make them in a private deposition instead of in public. Apparently it didn’t work out.

Anyway, House Speaker John Boehner threatened to hold her in contempt.

“I’ll wait for a report from [House Oversight] Chairman [Darrell] Issa about what happened and what will happen, but at some point … she has to testify or she should be held in contempt,” Boehner said.

Here she is, refusing to testify.

And that’s when the fun really began.

When Oversight ranking member Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) tried to speak up, committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) cut his mike. Cummings was supposed to be asking a question, but he then he tried to make a statement.

As Issa short-circuited his performance, Cummings had a conniption, erupting about the ruination of the republic and so forth.

Here’s the transcript, as provided by Roll Call.

CUMMINGS: Mr. Chairman, you cannot run a committee like this. You just cannot do this. We are better than that as a country. We are better than that as a committee.


I don’t care but the fact is I am asking a question. I am the ranking member of the committee and I want to ask a question.

What are we hiding? What’s the big deal. May I ask my question? May I make my statement?

ISSA: You are all free to leave, we’ve adjourned, but the gentleman may ask his question.

CUMMINGS: Thank you very much. Mr. Chairman, I have one procedural question, and it goes to trying to help you get the information by the way that you just asked.

ISSA: What is your question?

CUMMINGS: No, let me say what I have to say. I’ve listened to you for the last 15 or 20 minutes. Let me say what I have to say. Chairman, I have one procedural question.

ISSA: Ms. Lerner, you’re adj — you’re released — you may …

CUMMINGS: But first, I would like to use my time to make some brief points. For the past year, the central Republican accusation …

ISSA: We’re adjourned, close it down. …Thank you.

CUMMINGS (mic cut off): … in this investigation (garbled) …

DEMOCRATS: Shame, shame

CUMMINGS: … Before our committee read a single document or interviewed one witness Chairman Issa went on national television (crosstalk) the president’s political enemies effectively and lied about it during an election year. He continued this theme on Sunday …

ISSA: Mr. Cummings … Mr. Cummings, what is your question?

CUMMINGS: If you will sit down and allow me to ask a question …

Here’s the video.

36 Responses to Video || Lerner Takes the Fifth; Cummings Throws a Fit

  1. In the future, for the sake of “Transparency”,

    The part of Lerner will be played by a fifth of rye

    The part of Cummings will be played by a sign reading “Objective”.

  2. These people need to be sent to prison for covering up what was going on, but fat chance for it to occur. This Administration is as corrupt as those in Venezuela, Russia, China or some banana republic.

    • Haven’t you noticed? We are fast approaching banana-republic
      status as a nation! And it only took 5 yrs. Who would have

      • …it took Rome over two centuries to fall (republic-empire-barbarians)
        And here is the USA and it has taken us only 4-8 years for Our Nation to fall to the barbarians…

  3. How much more of this crap can we the people take of all of these antics? Dear Lord, there is so much corruption in this administration, but again and again there is nothing to see here. I’ve absolutely had it with this ship of fools. Lerner needs a contempt charge filed against her now, enough of all this BS.

  4. ” Chairman Issac went on national television (crosstalk) the president’s political enemies ‘ of course anyone disagreeing with Barry is the enemy ‘ effectually and lied about it during an election year …”
    I see more clearly now, when Barry goes on television and lies, continues to lie, that’s different and ok.
    Thanks for clearing that up Mr Cummings

  5. It’s soooooo hard to claim that nothing illegal transpired when the main person refuses to give testimony because it might reveal a criminal activity. Soooooo hard.

    MsLerner’s insistance on refusing to lie, twist or spin the truth by invoking her right to refuse to testify, is really taking one for team (short of the firing squad thing).
    She could have just as easily lied as do all the rest of the Dem elites when they testify before Congress.
    She could have claimed a brain injury, or a sudden onset of dementia where she doesn’t remember anything, butt…..bless her heart, she’s telling them to keep digging by her silence.

  6. Once again, this saddens me more than anything else. No-Information-Voters will see Cummings acuse Issa of a cover-up and not see the part about Lerner continuing to plead the 5th. As usual, the spotlight gets focused on the wrong thing and the truth is still not brought forward.

    Meantime… IRS: Mission Accomplished.

  7. That was Elijah Cummings?

    There’s a really bad pun to be made somewhere about the good congresscritter making such a spectacle of pleasuring himself (and only himself), but I’d better not finish going there.

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  8. I find it refreshing to see Issa shut the mike off and get up and leave.
    Cummings is just another obnoxious black liberal democrat demanding to pontificate whenever he deems it necessary to hold the floor to spout his opinions.
    I have watched these hearings on C-Span and most of them are irritating to say the least, in the fact that the democrats tend to dominate the conversation and the republicans tend to allow them to do so.

    Issa made a good move here as it will dominate the cable news for the near future.
    Maybe some people will see what happened here, and begin to see the light.

    A structured hearing where the individual was being questioned and refused to answer the questions.
    The representatives conducting the hearing adhered to the rules of the house committee until the rules were thrown aside by a loud liberal.

    Issa grew a pair right there, IMO.
    Enough is enough.

  9. Two Things to ask:
    1. Lerner and her atty wanted to have a private meeting.
    What difference would that have made, we all would have found out the truth, unless the people she was telling did not release it to the public?
    I appreciate them insisting on this being in the open. There are to many other private meetings going on with this administration.
    2. How long is going to take them to Hold her in Comtempt?
    If they do not, What would be the sensible reason not to do so?

  10. The White House must not have told Cummings Lerner would plead the 5th. So his staff wrote all these juicy attack-the-GOP phrases for him to repeat at the hearing, and what do you know, she pleads the 5th and Issa ends the meeting. So Cummings is pretty dadgummed frustrated. He practiced the phrases for hours in front of the mirror, after all. So he just shouts out the phrases anyway. Life ain’t fair, I tell ya.

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  12. […] You’ll remember, Lerner on March 5 invoked the Fifth Amendment during her second appearance before the panel, prompting Issa to shut down the hearing. Ranking member Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) said he had a “a procedural question.” When it became clear that what Cummings actually had was a political statement, Issa cut his mike. […]