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Sunday Open Thread – October 26, 2013

Take it away . . .

114 Responses to Sunday Open Thread – October 26, 2013

    • Lucky you, that sounds like a fabulous way to spend some time. Just fascinating.
      Thanks for your impressions, and fine reporting on the debate.

      p.s. I did notice a reference to another piece on some ‘dancers’ who want Virginia to go to Detroit. ? It sounds interesting, but I’m not going there.

        • I know you live somewhere in the DC/VA area. Are things really as hopeless for Cuchinelli as the media portray? McAuliffe seems stuck on 7% which is somewhat close to the margin of error. In other words, is there a chance of an upset?

          • I hope Cuccinelli wins, even in the debate yesterday, the beltway boys acknowledged Northern Va is inside the beltway and here in Southeastern/Coastal Va are two different states of mind. They both need NoVa to win, so that gives McAuliffe a big edge. Sad really, Terry’s less qualified to be Governor than Obama was to be Prezzy.

            Even sadder, Virginia’s a bellwether for 2014, if McAuliffe wins, they think the the House will go Dem and Obama will keep the Senate too. It’s what I brought away from the debate, it’s the voters stupid. Gah, we have no energy or help from the GOP here :(

          • One of my brothers and his family live in the N.Virginia area. He owns a company that relies on government contracts, one nephew is a DC schoolteacher, and the other a stockbroker.
            One guess how they’re all voting.


          • I don’t get McAuliffe’s popularity, especially that Dems are struggling now with Obama’s kerfluffles.

            Of course the campaigns have been the nastiest I’ve ever seen, perhap’s McA’s are the most effective with his war on women and Cucc just not pushing back hard enough. :(

          • I’ve read that Hillary Clinton will make a big to-do if McAuliffe wins that it is a good portent for a 2016 run for her. A sign that everyone wants the Clintons back. That’s utter nonsense, but there you have it.

        • We here know about him from the Clinton days and since.
          All are spooky, spooky people.
          My state knows a lot that is now buried.
          In a small state everyone hears everything from all sides…big money contributes to both sides and the result has been….interesting.
          I have followed politics here since I was in junior high…I am now 77.

    • Well done, Denise, well done. And now I know who your avatar represents at last. It’s so small on WHD that I was going to ask you if that was you, DeniseVB. I agree with you about Sekulow, one of the few real Constitutional scholars who reach the public. I only wish that Fox would invite him on as a lone guest instead of making him get a word in edgewise against the opposition.

        • DeniseVB and WHD readers, check-out the ACLJ website and read the extent to which Jay Sekulow’s organization is involved, on behalf of American citizens, with protecting our Constitutionally guaranteed rights against numerous assaults against citizens. Consider alerting others to the ACLJ, also, because the site’s updates are very informative, and Sekulow’s work is critically important, and costly, to fight against other ‘wealthier’ groups determined ‘to fundamentally……!’ jb

          • I support them. He has done a bang up job also on representing a lot of those who were targeted by the IRS. Sekulow is a great spokesman for all work they do.

    • Good post. Thanks. And it sounds like it was enjoyable for you as well. Even better. Although I don’t know if I would want to be that close to the 2 Davids. :)

      Hope Cucinelli can pull it off and that people go out and vote.

      Have heard some talk that all lib fed workers, contractors etc. be relocated to the Republic of Maryland. That would help.

        • Star, you’re supposed to hit the ‘reply’ immediately after the post you want to reply to, not the one at the end of the line.

        • Probably wasn’t too clear, they WON on talking points especially that they were there because of their poltical skills and getting Obama elected. Can’t argue with that. Most of their responses reminded us of that, but in a more respectful way than we’re used to reading on right and left blogs.

          Newt pretty much summed it up with how dysfunctional our WHOLE government is today. Gotta wake up more voters :)

  1. reports on a blog by MrsSillybus about something called the “data hub”.

    As you read the piece, I hope you can figure out how 300,000 requests for income data jumps to over 4 million requests for information.
    She insists the “data services hub” does not retain information, but in reality it does;

    Not only does she sound confused, but happy, anyone who tries to make sense of all of this would be confused, too. But, not happy.

    • Of course it’s being retained, by ACA query database as well as those systems it queries. There is no way other agencies will change their systems to suit the ACA requirements.

      • My hope is that, given/extracting/compiling this much information from so many sources, that “they” will be unable to separate the important from hair, nail and personal trainer appointments. Maybe the machines are smarter than the humans that have been trotted out, but so far, it sure doesn’t look like the A team.
        I think a Snowden is rare, but maybe it’s just wishful thinking.

  2. The Justice Department for the first time has notified a criminal defendant that evidence being used against him came from a warrantless wiretap, a move that is expected to set up a Supreme Court test of whether such eavesdropping is constitutional.

    Prosecutors filed such a notice late Friday in the case of Jamshid Muhtorov, who was charged in Colorado in January 2012 with providing material support to the Islamic Jihad Union, a designated terrorist organization based in Uzbekistan.

    Mr. Muhtorov is accused of planning to travel abroad to join the militants and has pleaded not guilty. A criminal complaint against him showed that much of the government’s case was based on e-mails and phone calls intercepted under a 2008 surveillance law.


    It’s hard to know which side to cheer: the wanna’be jihadi who was illegally spied on or the government that caught him before got educated. However, if the government can use warrantless surveillance against one of us, it can use it against all of us.

    • I can’t believe I’m writing this butt……………
      If he’s a US citizen, then the US government must follow the rules set out in our constitution.
      And even worse……………..
      If he’s a US citizen, then he has freedom of speech guaranteed, so if he wants to be a terrorist in another country….well, that’s his right.
      On the other hand, the trend to arrest terrorists who are citizens of another country, bring them to the US and try them in our criminal courts is wrong on every level.

      • “If he’s a US citizen, then he has freedom of speech guaranteed, so if he wants to be a terrorist in another country…. well, that’s his right.”

        I disagree. He’s charged with providing material support to a terrorist organization. That’s illegal. If he had gone to Uzbekistan and had survived, what would stop him from going to other nations, including the U.S., in order to wage jihad? We can’t give a free pass to people who plan on spreading jihad just because they don’t plan to do so immediately in this nation.

      • “On the other hand, the trend to arrest terrorists who are citizens of another country, bring them to the US and try them in our criminal courts is wrong on every level.”

        The most recent example I can think of is Abu Anas al Libi. We’re prosecuting him here because he helped bomb our embassies in Tanzania and Kenya. That’s U.S. soil.

    • The Justice Department for the first time has notified a criminal defendant that evidence being used against him came from a warrantless wiretap, a move that is expected to set up a Supreme Court test of whether such eavesdropping is constitutional.

      Already decided.

      United States v. Truong Dinh Hung (1980) – US Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals

      This case was cited by the FISA Court of Appeals back in 2002.

      In essence, warrantless searches are allowable for the purpose of gathering foreign intelligence. But no such evidence derived from a warrantless search can be used against a defendant in a criminal proceeding.

    • The lefties hate the fact that Americans have firearms in their homes, hanging from their hips or the back window of their pick-up trucks, or in the drawer.
      Of course, the more they push anti-gun agendas, the faster Americans buy up firearms for personal use.
      Unintended consequenses. Again.

      The more they push for anything, the harder the resolve of the citizens to resist.
      A WashPost piece describes how WestVirginia went from Blue to Red, but seemed to miss the big point of why. They write about the religious citizens resisting the atheist leanings of the progressives, but ignore the great big black elephant that identifies most of W.VA; coal.
      Coal is king there, butt the EPA just shut down the biggest economy driver in the state without giving them anything in return. W.Virginnys never cared much for any government, butt this Dem administration is hated and despised unlike any before.

    • Did that happen in Iowa? I’ve read that Cruz has taken Iowa by storm which is a good thing because I’ve also read that the Republican establishment there has sworn to take down Rep. Steven King, one of the best we have in the country. Cruz can help King in 2014.

      • The GOP is doing exactly what the Dems did during the Bush years and we ended up with Obama! I do hope the Whacko Birds take over the GOP otherwise we’ll be stuck with another losing nominee in 2016.

        I was on Daily Kos during Bush, unfortunately as an Edwards supporter, we eventually got purged for not backing Hillary or Obama. Then they purged the Hillary supporters with their classy “either you’re with Obama or the hell with you”. I left the Dems in 2008, yet the GOP has yet to win me over. I ended up voting for Romney though I think he was 5th choice in 2012. He was still a hecka of lot better than Obama, personally and professionally.

    • The backbenchers in state-run media don’t quite know what to make of Senator Cruz, as demonstrated in the DesMoines Register article Drudge is linking to. The reporterette dredged up establishment puke and eternal election loser, Mike Murphy, to get his opinion on Cruz. Of course, Murphy, like his pal Rove, has nothing nice to say about the good senator. Murphy labeled Cruz as a “purist” and a “priest”.

      The comeback from Senator Cruz was pure gold…

      “I do always find it amusing that political strategists who manage to lose national elections immediately share their wisdom to others about how to continue losing national elections.”

  3. Ten car bombs exploded across Baghdad province early on Sunday, killing at least 37 people, police and medics said.

    Nine of the blasts hit predominantly Shia Muslim districts, with the deadliest attack in the town of Nahrawan, south of the capital, where two car bombs exploded in quick succession near a busy market, killing seven people.

    Iraqi Shias have been targeted by Sunni Muslim insurgents including al Qaeda who have been regaining momentum this year after being forced underground in 2007.


    Violence, which reached a climax in 2006-07 before starting to ease, is now on the rise again, with around 3,000 civilians killed so far this year, according to monitoring group Iraq Body Count.

    Thanks, FCMABBHO!

    • I do not want to see Ted Cruz as VP to anyone. If he doesn’t get the nod, I want to see him placed on the Supreme Court and even replace John Roberts as Chief Justice.

      • I would consider Scott Walker a good Presidential candidate. IMO too soon for Cruz at SCOTUS. Would love to have at DOJ now — for the sheer pleasure of having laws enforced. A distant memory.

          • Even Allan Dershowitz agrees that no mat tr his position Ted Cruz is a man of principle. Cruz believes in the rule of law, representing his constituents over his party bosses and limited federal government. How a principled man such as this would be bad for any administration of either party escapes me. God knows we have enough unprincipled politicians in both parties.

            Unless I misunderstand.

          • Yeah, I did mean bad news for a principled person to be in any position to put the American people above the corruption of politics. He’ll be Sarah Palinized out of the running by 2016. :(

        • The establishment Republicans seem to be clamoring for a governor as their 2016 candidate right now, and I agree with you about Scott Walker. That man has proven he is principled–unlike Kasich and Christie.

      • Thank you Julie.
        Our veterans and our active duty troops are not being treated well under this regime and it is time we speak out against the religious persecution that they are enduring.
        When you serve the Country, no one forces you to worship or attend chapel services.
        But to deny them the right to do so is wrong.
        The persecution of the Chaplains for refusing to conduct same sex marriages because of their beliefs is wrong.
        The dismissal of high ranking officers because they disagree with the regime is an indication that Obama is insistent on wrecking the structure and reforming it to his idea of what the military should look like.

        It is obvious to all of us that post on this blogsite that Obama hates America and is determined to make the most impact that he can before his tenure is up.

        • And I’m sure I don’t need to tell you that the latest affront is that ‘so help me God’ is being made optional in the oath. It seems to me to be the first step in removing it altogether.

          • I saw that too Julie.
            Another effort to redesign the Marine’s cover is underway.
            The suggested ‘hat’ looks like a bellhop’s hat.
            IMO, the Marines always had the best looking uniform among all of the branches.
            Some of the comments on the change was Obama’s attempt to ‘de-genderize’ the military.
            WTF ?

          • The Air Force Academy will make the “so help me God” clause of the cadet honor oath optional, academy officials announced Friday.


            “Here at the academy, we work to build a culture of dignity and respect, and that respect includes the ability of our cadets, airmen and civilian airmen to freely practice and exercise their religious preference — or not,” said Lt. Gen. Michelle Johnson, academy superintendent, in a statement. “So, in the spirit of respect, cadets may or may not choose to finish the honor oath with ‘so help me God.'”


            This is fine with me. No one should be forced to go against their beliefs in order to take that oath. I’m a Christian, but I know atheists who are just as committed to this nation as I am, and they have the right to be protected by the First Amendment just as I have that right.

      • Thanks for spreading the word.
        2014 is crucial and the more info we get there the better.
        Too many people aren’t paying attention to what is happening to our Country.

    • Well said, AFVet ! Thanks to you and our staunch army of Patriots, our voices are getting louder and louder. The commie-in-chief is going to need ear plugs soon, very soon.

  4. Diplomats are not surprised that the security agencies under US President Barack Obama have reportedly been monitoring close allies like German Chancellor Angela Merkel. He has failed to foster close relationships with other heads of state, causing much frustration around the world.


    The Democrat, who prefers to spend his evenings with his family or alone in front of his computer, has made it no secret in Washington that he does not want to make new friends. That maxim especially applies to his foreign diplomacy. Unlike his predecessor George W. Bush, Obama is loved by the people of the world, but much less by their heads of government. On the heels of recent revelations that US spy agencies might have monitored Chancellor Merkel’s cell phone, the complaints about Merkel’s “lost friend” Obama are misplaced. Obama doesn’t want to be a friend.


  5. Starting my Sunday off with some Theater of the Absurd, I read this headline on Real Clear Politics:

    The Democrat’s (sic) Version of Health Insurance Would Have Been Cheaper, Simpler, and More Popular (So Why Did We Enact the Republican Version and Why Are They So Upset?)

    This is an article by Robert Reich and originally appeared in the Huffington Post.

  6. I have a question inspired by yesterdays “goldberg-obama-biggest-domestic-policy-lies/” post

    Is Obama the biggest liar ever to sit in the Presidency?
    Seriously, what has he ever said that was truthful about his policies and himself
    I can think of only two things. 1- that he wants to transform the US. 2- that he wants to redistribute wealth.

    Everything else is a lie

    His own personal life and feelings
    Foreign policy

    We can be specific if we need to

      • Click on the image to enlarge, MO brought the Royal Ta-Ta’s to church today :D Really, in late October DC ? Girlfriend may be hot flashing? I missed out all that fun, but some of my friends had to wear summer clothes in Feb. They were miserable :(

        • reply to @DeniseVB:
          I don’t know where this comment will appear; it’s nowhere near your request to embiggen the churchgoers photo.

          As if cleavage wasn’t disrespectful enough, a mini skirt and thigh-high boots finish the picture of someone who isn’t familiar with proper church attire. Thigh-high boots! really, Michelle,.

        • Why would anybody dress like a floozy to go to church? With all their money, with all her assistants, isn’t there anyone, anywhere that can tell that woman how to dress? I wonder why the “What Not to Wear” crew haven’t offered to volunteer their services?

        • Well, after MoochMoose is released from the protocol and ldecorum of her role as First Lady of the United States I am sure she will be more adventuresome and expressive in her attire. But for now she will just have to keep it toned down.

          Ta Ta.

    • The only true indicator that Obama feels he might be on the ropes – trot the family out to church services. I call BS and all the moreso because it is a political move.

  7. CGI Federal Inc., the mastermind behind, is assisting the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) in the distribution of $1.7 billion in relief for Hurricane Sandy.


    The Associated Press revealed Tuesday that a mere $700 million of the $60 billion federal aid package – 1.2 percent of the total funds – has been given to victims of super storm Sandy.


  8. Spanish-language version of ACA,, postponed indefinately. Not ready for enrollment.

    This can only be a huge embarrassment for Obama! He kowtowed to Hispanics and bribed millions of Dreamers with back-door amnesty to steal the election, and now this? Indefinite postponement? If he can’t get it to work in English, how will it ever work in Spanish?

    Yesterday the WH ‘clarified’ the illegal alien vs. legal immigrant dilemma when enrolling. If an illegal alien lives with a U.S. citizen or legal resident, that person cannot enroll in Obamacare. But the other ‘legal’ members of the household can enroll.

    Question: Are SS numbers required for ‘children’ on the ‘family plans’? If an illegal under the age of 26 is living in that same household, can he/she game the system by claiming to be dependents on the family plan? Since most illegals are YOUNG, this looks like an open invitation for fraud.

    Also, does an ITIN number entitle a person to Obamacare? ITIN’s usually always indicate that the holder is a non-citizen.

    The potential for fraud is only exacerbated by the presence of Obama’s hand-picked ACORN navigators. We need to stop this catastrophe in its tracks!

  9. There have been several articles written lately about seniors not having to worry about Obamacare, Medicare will remain unchanged?

    First of all Obamcare will be partially funded by over $50 Billion per year taken from Medicare, which is already on a path to insolvency.

    “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period!” — BHO

    There were many other lies told about the (un)Affordable Care Act, but that is one of the biggest.

    “if you like your insurance plan, you can keep your insurance plan, period!” — BHO

    Another whopper told by the liar in chief. Millions of Americans are being notified that their plans are being cancelled.

    The networks established in the exchanges are excluding certain hospitals and doctors for reasons that haven’t been justified as of yet.

    We are 70 years old and on Medicare. This is our personal experience in Yuma, AZ — SO FAR.

    Our primary care physician of 15 years quit taking Medicare 3 years ago (he never took Mediicaid). He volunteered to refer us to another Doctor who would, but instead we have continued to see him and pay cash for which we receive a 25% discount. I would estimate his age as 35.

    Another GP who we see during the summer quit her private practice to become a hospitalist. She was approximately 45 years old.

    Our Opthamologist, quit and closed his practice last year at age 55. We were referred to a clinic in the same city.

    Our dermatologist quit his private practice and retired last year at age 45. He was unable to find anyone to take over his practice, but referred us to another Doctor. After seeing her once last spring, we went back for our regular 6-month checkups just this week, but she had retired at age 40 and left to take care of her aging mother in Atlanta. Luckily, she had been able to find someone to buy her practice. We hope he will still be here in another 6 months when our next checkup is due.

    All of these doctors cited Obamacare as a primary factor in their decisions.

    We are in deep trouble here folks, even if you are on Medicare!


    I am troubled that the GOP led by House Speaker John Boehner is going to spring upon the unsuspecting public, some disgusting array in line with Liberal left? Enacting a policy something similar to the Senate immigration Amnesty, before any of us trusting public is even aware? Clandestine negotiations might be going on right now, behind those proverbial closed doors. Both willing to compromise; the socialist Democrats so they can obtain millions of cheap votes and GOP elitists, so they can mollify the business special interests, as they are not specifically happy with ONLY the millions plus, imported into the country now, but both parties want to endorse 30 million more, while sacrificing American jobs.

    The problem with Obamacare is the illegal alien invasion, as in the fact of using Social Security numbers to establish who’s eligible? So the question is can an illegal alien applying with a ITIN number gain eligibility to what should merely be available for citizens and legal residents. But what I would like to comprehend, that when you sign up your Social Security number is collected and then added to some colossal data base. But then what about the ITIN numbers given freely by this ineffectual government to millions of illegal aliens? Has this government found an excusable way, to insert unknown numbers of foreign nationals, who shouldn’t be here in the first place? The Individual
    Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) is a tax processing number issued by the
    Internal Revenue Service. IRS issues ITINs to an individual who are obligatory to
    have a U.S. taxpayer identification number but who do not have, and are not entitled to
    obtain a Social Security Number (SSN) from the Social Security Administration

    The ITINs are issued regardless of immigration status because both resident and nonresident aliens may have a U.S. filing or reporting requirements. As I see it the only winner in Obama health care are Deadbeats and spongers. These are the individuals who call work “A dirty word” who have lived of the taxpayers, most of their lives and drawn
    public assistance and are a stain the benefit system. Only the truly disabled,
    sick, veteran warriors and single mothers with children, the impoverished should
    have access. Hardly any restriction on Food stamps by this administration, gives even the wealthy admission. This President devastating repercussions are beginning to hit home.
    Individuals are losing the plans they like and hundreds of thousands are being
    cancelled. Our elderly are losing their doctors. Doctors are refusing to
    participate. Medications are being denied. Referrals are being denied. People
    are at risk of severe penalties because can’t sign up on the website—as it does
    not work. Obama and his administration unashamedly lied to and mislead Americans
    purely in an effort to gain power and control. We’ve had enough of their
    tyranny! Get your message to Congress now. Find out more details of the
    corruption in the highest political power brokers in Washington and every one of the 50 states at Judicial Watch or illegal immigration at Numbersusa and the TEA PARTY.

    There is a critical, but easy approach to cut the job marketplace from the thousands of illegal aliens arriving here daily: A demand for—ALL THE PEOPLE—ALL THIS NATION—(Lawful Residence possess a green card) a bio-metric Social Security ID card, that will slice the illegal foreign workers arriving here to a dribble; stopping election fraud by non-citizens and halt criminals stealing credit, welfare and other citizen safety-net. This programmed identification card that you would slide through a machine, just the same way you slide a charge card through the component, would deny illegal alien parents from appropriating billions of dollars annually in child credits. The government is careless in the fact, millions of taxpayer dollars go overseas to hundreds of thousands of non-existent progeny of illegal parents.

    Your photo, your fingerprint and even an eyeball scan would make a distinction from anybody else. The possessed fools in Congress of both political parties (not the TEA PARTY) are willing to keep spending trillions of dollars, but shy away from this federal issued ID card for a meager $2 Billion that the legislators say would cover every U.S.
    citizen. A card more powerful than E-Verify or means of enforcement internally
    or at the borders; a national ID card that Americans need urgently. I only hope
    some Patriotic American begins a petition, to Command the legislators in Washington

    No Copyright/ Pass along to every taxpayer.