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Senate Talks Resume as House Cancels Vote

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell resumed talks tonight on a compromise to reopen the government and raise the debt ceiling, and there seemed to be growing optimism they will reach a deal, possibly Tuesday night.

The talks resumed as Speaker Boehner decided he lacked enough support to pass a proposal that would have raised the debt ceiling until February 7 and fund the government through December 15.

The legislation would have eliminated government assistance to lawmakers, White House officials and their staffs to help them buy insurance on the Obamacare exchanges. Also, Treasury would have been forbidden from using “extraordinary measures” to extend the debt ceiling beyond February 7. Language to end an unpopular tax on medical devices was dropped earlier in the day.

Democrats rejected these measures as too much, while conservatives were in shock that this is all they would get at the end of the battle, giving Boehner little ability to make headway on either side of the aisle.

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  1. It sounds as though responsible Americans employ an incompetent president, congress, with its myriad bureaucracies, and a recalcitrant judicial branch who and which have collectively placed their welfare above ours.
    Let us fire them all, rid ourselves of stifling regulatory agencies and reconstruct this country. We could be energy independent and launch an unbelievable recovery but for prissy environmentalists and naysayers. Where do I begin and who will join me?

      1. I don’t have much cash; fixed income, but we have got to do something to let these people we send to Washington work for us and not us for them.
        We raised three children who are taxpaying adults and they are raising seven grandchildren similarly. Our needs are modest, but when we go to grocery store, we are astonished at the cart loads of the tattooed and pierced crowds, many of whom appear to be state debit card and food stamp buyers. We know the monthly food stamp days and try not to compete, but every once in a while it happens. We also see elderly individuals and couples whose carts seem pitiably light.
        I thank God our needs for chips, soda, processed foods and other junk food are modest.

  2. Trying to sift through all the partisan jibber-jabber is getting harder to do out her in flyover country.
    What’s seems to be happening is the Dems want to borrow more money, raise our national debt, cement the worst bill ever to pass Congress, and take responsiblility for whatever misfortunes appear next.
    It will be a hollow and painful victory over the elected Repubs as the ACA comes crashing down, our economy tanks ever further, and nothing good is on the horizon.
    What are they thinking; they will own or be responsible for everything that is unpopular with the voters who are not all Repubs.

    1. The only problem is the democrats and liberals take no responsibility, they find a way to place all blame on conservatives and libertarians.
      Obama sets the example by blaming everyone else all the time. They follow his lead and expand upon it.

    2. “partisan jibber-jabber”.
      Truer words were never spoken.
      Time to clean house,…vote them all out and start over.
      In 2014, we can knee-cap Obama by taking the majority from the dems in the senate thereby eliminating Harry Reid and the power he has over the house.

  3. Boehner should table all proposals by the Senate until they decide to seriously compromise and negotiate. Reid has set the example for it, Pelosi and Obama have praised and encouraged Reid’s behavior. Boehner should close the offices as Reid did. Republicans and conservatives will be excoriated regardless of what action they take. Take bold ones.
    Soft talking Reid, strident Pelosi, and petulant Obama have only demanded total capitulation. When Boehner started backing off the first measure, they went in for the kill.

    1. I don’t disagree with your sentiment, but what’s the end game here, a sum-zero net?
      If the Dems get everything they want, the Repubs will still be sitting in Congress. The Repubs don’t go home if they ‘lose’, there’s no trophy to be carried around, and still, the voters will want to replace every one of them no matter what party.
      They’re fighting and arguing over how much of our money they want to spend and how deep in debt they want to put future generations.
      We’re out here struggling,and our children are working at part-time jobs, gasoline and energy costs are rising, food prices are being raised every day, and if that wasn’t enough, our own government wants to punish US because someone in DC with an “R” behind their name won’t give them what they want.
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      The MSM might crow about the low polling numbers for Congress, but they don’t realize the lack of respect is for all of them, R’s and D’s. We don’t respect our elected officials, we are afraid of our government now, and we are ashamed of our weak-kneed, girly-man President who thinks the best thing to being the POTUS is that everyone will answer the phone if he calls.

      1. The fraud in the White House truly is delusional. He lies even when he’s schmoozing state-run media with braggadocio. I recall less than two months ago Egyptian Army General Sisi refused to take Preezy’s call when he sided with the Muslim Brotherhood after Egypt’s military coup.

          1. My little personal game plan is to not undermine the Repubican bench–any one would be better than Hilary or the incumbent. We need someone to vote for–as well as against. We can’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good enough.

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  5. It might be too much to ask that the SENATE be forced back to the drawing board and come up with some other concessions. Ya think? Nah!

  6. The fix is in to seize the power of the purse from the House of Representatives. The question is, are there enough Patriots in Congress to stop this coup? Doesn’t look like it from this vantage point.

  7. April 3, 2013
    Senator Patty Murray
    Senator Maria Cantwell
    Washington, DC, 20510

    Dear Senator(s):

    I have tried to live by the rules my entire life. My father was a Command
    Sergeant Major, U.S. Army, who died of combat related stresses shortly after
    his retirement. It was he who instilled in me those virtues he felt important – honesty, duty, patriotism and obeying the laws of God and of our various governments. I have served my country, paid my taxes, worked hard,
    volunteered and donated my fair share of money, time and artifacts.

    Today, as I approach my 79th birthday, I am heart-broken when I look at my
    country and my government. I shall only point out a very few things
    abysmally wrong which you can multiply by a thousand fold. I have calculated
    that all the money I have paid in income taxes my entire life cannot even
    keep the Senate barbershop open for one year! Only Heaven and a few
    tight-lipped actuarial types know what the Senate dining room costs the
    taxpayers. So please, enjoy your haircuts and meals on us.

    Last year, the president spent an estimated 1.4 $billion on himself and his
    family. The vice president spends $millions on hotels. They have had 8
    vacations so far this year! And our House of Representatives and Senate have
    become America’s answer to the Saudi royal family. You have become the
    “perfumed princes and princesses” of our country.

    In the middle of the night, you voted in the Affordable Health Care Act,
    a.k.a. “Obama Care,” a bill which no more than a handful of senators or
    representatives read more than several paragraphs, crammed it down our
    throats, and then promptly exempted yourselves from it substituting your own
    taxpayer-subsidized golden health care insurance.

    You live exceedingly well, eat and drink as well as the “one percenters,”
    consistently vote yourselves perks and pay raises while making 3.5 times the
    average U.S. individual income, and give up nothing while you (as well as
    the president and veep) ask us to sacrifice due to sequestration (for which,
    of course, you plan to blame the Republicans, anyway).

    You understand very well the only two rules you need to know – (1) How to
    get elected, and (2) How to get re-elected. And you do this with the aid of
    an eagerly willing and partisan press, speeches permeated with a certain
    economy of truth, and by buying the votes of the greedy, the ill-informed
    and under-educated citizens (and non-citizens, too, many of whom do vote )
    who are looking for a handout rather than a job. Your so-called “safety net”
    has become a hammock for the lazy. And, what is it now, about 49 or 50
    million on food stamps – pretty much all Democrat voters – and the program
    is absolutely rife with fraud with absolutely no congressional oversight?

    I would offer that you are not entirely to blame. What changed you is the
    seductive environment of power in which you have immersed yourselves. It is
    the nature of both houses of Congress which requires you to subordinate your
    virtue in order to get anything done until you have achieved a leadership
    role. To paraphrase President Reagan, it appears that the second oldest
    profession (politics), bears a remarkably strong resemblance to the oldest.

    As the hirsute first Baron John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton (1834 – 1902),
    English historian and moralist, so aptly and accurately stated, “Power tends
    to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost
    always bad men.” I’m only guessing that this applies to the female sex as
    well. Tell me, is there a more corrupt entity in this country than Congress?
    While we middle class people continue to struggle, our government

    becomes less and less transparent, more and more bureaucratic, and ever so
    much more dictatorial, using Czars and Secretaries to tell us (just to
    mention a very few) what kind of light bulbs we must purchase, how much soda
    or hamburgers we can eat, what cars we can drive, gasoline to use, and what
    health care we must buy. Countless thousands of pages of regulations
    strangle our businesses costing the consumer more and more every day.

    As I face my final year, or so, with cancer, my president and my government
    tell me “You’ll just have to take a pill,” while you, Senator, your
    colleagues, the president, and other exulted government officials and their
    families will get the best possible health care on our tax dollars until you
    are called home by your Creator while also enjoying a retirement beyond my
    wildest dreams, which of course, you voted for yourselves and we pay for.

    The chances of you reading this letter are practically zero as your staff
    will not pass it on, but with a little luck, a form letter response might be
    generated by them with an auto signature applied, hoping we will believe
    that you, our senator or representative, has heard us and actually cares.
    This letter will, however, go on line where many others will have the chance
    to read one person’s opinion, rightly or wrongly, about this government, its
    administration and its senators and representatives.

    I only hope that occasionally you might quietly thank the taxpayer for all
    the generous entitlements which you have voted yourselves, for which, by
    law, we must pay, unless, of course, it just goes on the $17 trillion
    national debt for which your children and ours, and your grandchildren and
    ours, ad infinitum, must eventually try to pick up the tab.

    My final thoughts are that it must take a person who has either lost his or
    her soul, or conscience, or both, to seek re-election and continue to
    destroy this country I deeply love and put it so far in debt that we will
    never pay it off while your lot improves by the minute, because of your
    power. For you, Senator, will never stand up to the rascals in your House
    who constantly deceive the American people. And that, my dear Senator, is
    how power has corrupted you and the entire Congress. The only answer to
    clean up this cesspool is term limits. This, of course, will kill the goose
    that lays your golden eggs. And woe be to him (or her) who would dare to
    bring it up.

    Sincerely,

    Bill Schoonover
    3096 Angela Lane
    Oak Harbor, WA98277

  8. These elected officials need to know the public is watching and seeing how they vote on these things.We are tired of the debt and do not want obamacare funded. It is a nightmare in the making.They will get voted out, that is if our elections are still secure.

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