Perhaps sensing Republican weakness, President Obama reversed himself and is pushing back against short-term debt ceiling hike, stressing in his weekly address released this morning what a bad idea it would be.
It wouldn’t be wise, as some suggest, to just kick the debt ceiling can down the road for a couple months, and flirt with a first-ever intentional default right in the middle of the holiday shopping season.
After the GOP was offfered earlier this week what I described as a cave-in by Obama – a willingness to accept a short term debt ceiling increase while negotiations Obama has previously rejected kicked in – Republicans failed to act, dithering for days and failing to forge a unified position between their House and Senate caucuses.
Instead, sloppy Republican leadership allowed competing proposals to emerge from the House and Senate, with a Senate plan that would extend government financing for six months and raise the debt ceiling through January 2014. House Republicans sought to raise the debt limit until the week before Thanksgiving.
As any general knows, when your opposition is divided, you win. Obama acted smartly to abet the divisions among Republicans by inviting them separately to the White House. At his meeting with GOP senators, Republicans were reduced to asking Obama what was in the House plan.
What a joke. Republicans should have gotten their act together and insisted on a meeting between House and Senate GOP leaders and the president. This would have made sense unless, of course, House Speaker John Boehner was never serious about the House position to begin with . . .
Obama had suggested just Tuesday that the debt ceiling need only be raised “for the period of time in which these negotiations are taking place.” White House National Economic Council Director Gene Sperling the day before had indicated the increase could cover as little as two or three weeks.
A debt ceiling hike through January 2014 is not a catastrophe for the GOP. It still provides three and a half months of pressure to strike deals on limiting spending and and making changes to Obamacare. But with Obamacare entrenched at that point for four months, it seems the goal of delaying it for a year would be off the table.
Here’s Obama’s weekly address.
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Obama visited with Malala yesterday and I really hope he listened to her. He should have given her HIS Peace Prize ;)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/10/11/malala-yousafzai-meets-with-the-obamas-in-the-oval-office/?tid=sm_fb
Wouldn’t you if you were a parent of two daughters take them to meet this miraculously brave young woman? I don’t have kids but if given the chance I’d like to think I would have taken my daughter
or son for that matter.
Mark, are you an incarcerated felon? If so, that would explain your verbage.
Oh….fresh troll !!
It’s verbiage, genius. I’m sure he has moved on to more productive pursuits, as am I.
There are no words. So frustrating and meanwhile as health insurance policy renewals are being sent out with new, significant rate hikes, has anyone calculated how much money will be pulled out of the economy? If our policy goes up a hundred or more dollars that is cash that won’t go to extras like eating out or random shopping.
Mr. Boehner, if you read this, please stand firm!!
Yes, Christmas shopping, my arse. BTW, have you seen the Obamacare map on Michelle Obama’s Mirror? The only states which will see a drop in insurance rates are the liberal northeastern ones which are already doing quite well, thank you. The rest of us will be paying for them.
For some poor people that will meant just “eating,” much less “eating out.”
Sad, we have some of those folks in our area who are in a panic.
Disgusted.
Methinks the Republicans have become a pinata for Obama and the Democrats.
A pinata at least has something worthwhile in side them. Seems that the GOP leadership has nothing inside. No backbone, on heart, no gut. All of the supposed leadership needs to be replaced with people that can stand the heat and abuse.
But a pinata is filled with cheap candy and worthless trinkets, Shofar.
We’ve all become pin cushions. The establishment GOP has declared an internecine war and the Tea Party faction has been declared persona non grata. I need look no further than how poorly they’ve behaved towards Sarah Palin. The bastids never would have gained the seats in the House in 2010 had it not been for the Tea Party.
The American people are the personal Pinata’s of this fool who is masquerading as POTUS.
Personally, I think he is terribly insecure and probably has a drug habit to boot.
The republicans never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Pathetic bunch of gutless, spineless losers willing to sacrifice their country and fellow citizens in order to maintain their own personal positions of power. Traitors.
That is a great line there, the first sentence.
Junius, the Republican leadership is playing gentlemen’s badminton and Obama and his posse are playing Cloward-Pivens and Alinsky games. That’s the problem. The two sides are in two completely different sandboxes.
Another example of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
What an incompetent bunch of asses. The GOP leadership are like the Eloi, willingly going to slaughter whenever the Morlocks chime.
Uh..oh, the GOP is doing the Hokey Pokey dance again…they put their right hand in, they pull their right hand out…♫°•♪.♪♫°•♪♫
My list of “I don’t care anymore”:
1. that the President turned down a proposal to end the shutdown and keep us from going into default.
2. that the Repubs have formed a circular firing squad.
3. that we wasted a bilion dollars on a program that will never work, and has harmed millions of Americans
4. that the once beloved US park rangers have shown themselves as shock troops bent on torturing random citizens on behalf of their Dem masters
5. that Bruce Jenner and his wife have marital problems
6. that no one in DC gives a hoot about what is going on out her in fly-over country
7. now even the Repubs hate anyone who supports the tea party agenda.
sigh, now I feel better.
Same here, especially for #2 and #6.
Note from our attorneys – these are real statements. From real people.
Ditto on #2 and #6.
Dittos srdem.
No one seems to care about the American people. Period. As for our President, he just keeps proving over and over he’s a spoiled brat who doesn’t care about anything but himself.
Yeah–I am burned out, too. Why don’t we all pile on and have a happy old time helping Obama trash our party! Yay!
I am now all about the humor. Remember those Let’s Move stamps that were “unsafe”? Well–some photoshoppers have been at work.
http://twitchy.com/2013/10/10/unsafe-lets-move-postage-stamps-licked-by-hilarious-photoshops/
LOL. They get my stamp of approval.
“president mom-pants” lol
The heights of Obama’s duplicity are exceeded only by the heights of Republican leadership stupidity.
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Aw, go terrorize a tourist or block a mountain, Mark.
Washington, D.C. is a cesspool of corruption and graft. Our system of government has been bastardized by statists, to the point it no longer functions unless the leviathan can steal more of our wealth and grab more power and control from the people. When one man takes it upon himself to dictate how this country will be run, and there is no one in leadership willing to to stand up to his flagrant abuse of power, we have Tyranny.
Almost hope for a “super cyclone” to touch down on what Reagan called “the iron triangle of the liberal media, liberal special interest groups, and the massive bureaucracy.” Maybe a good storm will wash all the ticks and bloodsuckers away, and we can start all over again.
Big business all in on immigration.
Speaking of immigration…
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/world-health-organization-1-in-3-somalis-are-insane/
And you have put your finger on the problem with Paul Ryan.
“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair…
I think I’m going to reread that book. I have a set of Dickens but haven’t read A Tale of Two Cities since I was in high school. From what I remember it might be a good book to give a conservative heart for the fight.
A sharknado.
I can’t believe a stupid idiot like Obama is able to get away with this tyranny and that no one in Washington is able to stop him? I guess thats because the Republicans and the Democrats both don’t care about the country or its people, otherwise he would have been stopped in his tracks a long time ago. He is getting away with everything because he is the first black president and he knows it!
“A debt ceiling hike through January 2014 is not a catastrophe for the GOP. It still provides three and a half months of pressure to strike deals on limiting spending and and making changes to Obamacare. But with Obamacare entrenched at that point for four months, it seems the goal of delaying it for a year would be off the table.”
Not delaying Obamacare for one year might turn out to be a blessing in disguise. Obama’s raison d’etre is to completely destroy the Republican party in the mid-terms. By that time the deleterious effects of the ACA will be on display for all to see. Conservatives will be vindicated and we will have a repeat of 2010…in BOTH chambers. Obama will rue the day he didn’t take Boehner’s one-year delay offer….an offer that never should have been put forth considering it would actually have benefitted the grim reaper-in-chief.
You dazzle me with your intelligence and powers of persuasion.
And his grasp of worn out, vintage insults…really quite amazing.
It’s all so original that he must not be using an OfA or Media Matters playbook.
Who’s attacking Brietbart?
Sorry, can’t resist. I said I wasn’t going to respond to you. Anyone who comes here and calls someone what you just did makes me say that, if true that you are a graduate of those two institutions, it doesn’t speak well of them. In my books, you are not a civilized, educated person.
“I graduated from Northwestern and have an MBA from Stanford.”
Ooooh. What next are you gonna’ whip out to prove you’re bigger and better than us?
Wait. Lemme’ get my magnifying glass.
I graduated from a bigger school than those–but I would not want to embarrass you. Anyway, it just shows how the well educated have fallen. You’d think someone who went to collitch would have a better vocab. Go know. Anyhow–haven’t we already slapped you around–why are you back for more?
knuckle dragging tea bagger — Stanford must be so proud.
Perhaps you should post there.
Question is…with all that education, does Mark actually have a job? In his field of study? How much does he make? Is he ass deep in student loan debt? And really, if so, how smart does that make him?
If he can do no better than name calling, I would say he never was, and never will be, very high up the food chain.
I am pretty sure loans and repayment are not part of the picture here.
I see Michelle and Dr Jill have been out and about with their No Fat kid
program and faux helping military families. The last one caused me to
take the Lord’s name in vain more than once. Besides the hypocrisy of
anything Michelle does why are she and Dr Jill going anyplace aren’t we
closed as far as her little jollies? I was going to have a free day from news but well now I’m way to angry to calling Tea Trolley.
What did I tell you Keith that my worry was the bottom feeders would make their ways to your site after your great contribution to Politico. Case in point, Mark with his juvenile points to make, and, oh yes, name calling. Gotta have the name calling. We need the filter on or we will be down in the intellectual gutter with them. Be very careful.
I agree. Huffington Post has huge numbers of hits, but when you look at their comments, you know it is a lunatic asylum.
“Fox echo chamber”–another vintage oldie. I love these!
Must have them written on index cards in crayon.
I feel so miserable when Mark doesn’t post. It’s almost like having him here.
Uhhh, What fact was that Marko. Seems like you spend a lot of time with Breitbart and Fox news. Gotta jobo, Marko with all your impressive credentials?.
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Excerpt – Radio Address:
“And it wouldn’t be wise, as some suggest, to just kick the debt ceiling can down the road for a couple months, and flirt with a first-ever intentional default right in the middle of the holiday shopping season. Because damage to America’s sterling credit rating wouldn’t just cause global markets to go haywire; it would become more expensive for everyone in America to borrow money. Students paying for college. Newlyweds buying a home. It would amount to a new tax – a Republican default tax – on every family and business in America.”
Just reading the words of this lying skunk makes my head explode.
“First-ever INTENTIONAL default”? There is zero chance of default unless Obama and Lew decide not to service the debt! And that would be an INTENTIONAL default. How does he get away with this deceit?
“A new tax – a Republican default tax on every family and business in America”???
No, Mr. Obama – that tax is called Obamacare!
Day after day, week after week, year after year….this little prissy fop is allowed to sit before a camera in the shadow of his legitimate predecessors and spew his propaganda. Such a travesty.
Lucy…football…same story Charlie Brown.
You know how to put things in a nutshell.
I gotta’ wonder about the psychological health of someone who posts insults on a site filled with people who disagree with him. What’s the point? Does he really think that those people will suddenly convert to his POV and thank him for coming down from Mt. Olympus to dwell with mere mortals?
I don’t disagree on the circular firing squad thing, except that is such a tiresome cliche–but he gets a F from me on his writing, peppered with garden variety profanities and low rent expressions.
Maybe I’m missing something, but Mark didn’t come up with the bit about the circular firing squad.
He’s being paid? Maybe it’s the only source of income the Northwestern/Stanford genius has.
I’m always a day late and dollar short so I missed the stuff today with Mark. thank goodness! But is he the one that said he’s paid quarterly to post on social media?
I dunno, but I’m glad he’s gone.
Speaking of Ted Cruz. Read this takeoff on Dr. Seuss’ Green Eggs and Ham a while back and thought it was a very appropriate response to the superior (in his own mind) and learned (in the rules of Alinsky) Mark.
Who mentioned Obamacare? Guess the real allegory here is your acknowledgement that Obamacare is a scam.
Gotcha!
Mark, since you are an educated guy, why don’t you try enlightening us with the arguments against Obamacare. This link will provide ample research material: http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/10/11/50-Real-People-Complaining-About-Healthcare-gov
EXCELLENT !
Brilliant!
Terrific post
OT. The vet march is Sunday. It is taking place in WDC and at locations throughout the country. Here is a link to where and when and donate if you cannot join, and are so inclined. Kudos to Congressman Stockman and others who are active in this.
http://vetmarch.com/#top
Thanks.
The truckers also showed up big time.
http://www.youviewed.com/2013/10/11/truckers-ride-for-the-constitution-day-one-updates-pics/
Patriots abound.
Thanks for this. Good on them and the vets.
I thank you too. The truckers’ protest was portrayed as a bust by the MSM.
Just watched Sarah Palin’s campaign speech for Steve Lonegan in New Jersey. Sarah and her husband, Todd, are going to be in D.C. tomorrow to greet some vets. God be with all our Patriots!
Obama and Reid reject the Collins’ Senate offer. That should be the final offer. But I think Republicans can and will go lower.
Well, if it came from Susan Collins, how much lower could they go? Don’t forget, Maine is one of the three states he exempted from Obamacare.
If Reid turns down an offer from Collins, then there is nothing but unconditional surrender on the agenda.
This has nothing to do with the country.
One question. Under what authority is this Congress allowing revenue bills to be introduced by the Senate? Totally unconstitutional and they better knock it off and act like Americans rather than bi-partisan political hacks. Their game has been exposed for all the world to see. We the People are not going to let them get away with exempting themselves from their own liberty-stealing health insurance scam. Just in case you forgot Dear Congress, “Article I. Section 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills”. Get that Congress. Not just some Bills, ALL Bills. The Senate has absolutely no say in Revenue bills except to amend or concur. Also, Harry Reid had absolutely no constitutional authority to strip the Obama-Boehnercare defunding from the House Revenue Bill to begin with. Obey Your Oath of Office Congress!
Is that copyrighted material, Mark?
What’s a “reponse”?
Heck, I’m still trying to figure out what a “band of meery men” is. Must be getting dark in his mom’s basement.
O/T, Mark – were you successful in enrolling in the ACA?
Meery; means “Peaceful” in Bulgarian, who knew?
LOL. That’s right, “mir”, pronounced meer, means both peace and the world in Russian so I am assuming Bulgarian is pretty close. The adjective in Russian is “mirniy”, meer-knee. Enough pedantry. But I thought Mark was referring to meerkats.
Holder’s family?
: – )) I am eternally grateful to you for coming up with that comparison.
I wonder if anyone’s ever called him that.
Actually, it should be “knuckle-dragging” and “i.e.” followed by a comma.
Come to think of it, knuckle dragging would take some flexibility–more than I have these days with the arthritis.
How very apropos! Except for the occasional drive-by commie malcontent, all we posters here at the WHD are peaceful people.
He hasn’t washed off the the film of Cheeto dust that’s coating his monitor.
Tsk Tsk Mark. A word to the wise:never post facts on this Republi-Con website. This is a special group of folks who are paranoid delusionals. I tried to post during the election when all these folks actually believed Dick Morris’s election prediction. Do not waste your time- as McCain said on Fox yesterday about Cruz and Obamacare it is a “fools errand.”
Listen to Emily, Mark–she is also a good name caller.
We must bored to give Mark this much attention.Oh, well…it’s the weekend.
Maybe. I think we’re all frustrated at the chaos in DC, and this guy comes in with his ‘neener, neener’. He had to expect we would throw everything at him.
I was rather nice to Mark.
Mark’s OFS minder to the rescue.
ok, OFA, Wouldn’t want anyone to think I was implying OFSh*t.
: – ))
Paranoid delusionals ?
Who are you and what are you doing here ?
For someone claiming to be highly educated, you sure have trouble with the English language.
O/T, Mark…do you know if the staff of the Senate gym are considered non-essential?
You use stuff without acknowledging its source? Isn’t that plagiarism?
Republicans are still playing by the “Mr. Nice Guy” rules which worked years ago, but now they are playing against Chicago Thug Style politics and come across as wimps against the bullies. There is nothing dirty that Obama and his crew won’t do, and the wimpy Republicans don’t seem to realize that the game has changed and they desperately need to stand their ground and fight back against the bullies. Either stand and fight, or kiss the America we knew goodbye!
Every time he backtracks on somethings, that’s The Limbaugh Theorem right there. You don’t negotiate. Again, “In politics NOTING happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was PLANNED that way” – FDR
It was during the BO Administration that the U.S. had their first ever financial downgrade.
*poof*
Believe or not Mark,…you have just been insulted.
All of the money that you spent, (or did you ?) on your education.
What a shame.
I missed Emily entirely but apparently she did not miss my spelling error on my comment to Mark.
That type of commenter is #1 on my list of “things I don’t care about anymore” (h/t to srdem65)
But, I admit – I love to tease them relentlessly.
“I’m older and I have more insurance.” a line spoken by Kathy Bates in the movie “Fried Green Onions”…for the time being that is true for me – and besides, I took the peanut butter sniff test today and the results were, shall we say, of concern. However, I do not particularly like peanut butter … so there is that.
That is a great line. I had forgotten. Pretty appropriate these days.:)
I follow this site with interest. It seems most people despise Obama. But he keeps winning because people care more about how much he golfs and what his wife eats. I have read some postings on here that make Bush Derangement Syndrome look like a day at the beach. My goodness, don’t you folks get tired of shouting in the wind? Look at where the GOP is today, and you bear a lot of that responsibility. Try to act like grown-ups everyone, please.
EBT down due to computer “glitch”. Wait until the whole country is using them. Hope everybody has their fruits and vegetables “put up” for the year.
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/12/ebt-cards-malfunctioning-in-many-states/
“Let’s get back to the Work” implies…….he has been working. Loser! Resign!
White House National Economic Council Director Gene Sperling the day before had indicated the increase could cover as little as two or three weeks.
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HA!
Interesting that Republicans gave the President and his Dimocrats the way out of this mess and they still rejected it.
It reminds me of when the Israeli’s gave into many of the PLO’s terms for peace and Yarafat would not negotiate at all.
President Obama, who is the terrorist now?
It’ll be Festivus for the rest of us this year. :-(
vivement vendredi que je vois le chir et après vacances.!!3 semaines en famille quel bonheur!!!
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