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Republicans and Black People

Republicans are wrong to ignore black voters in the way that they do. I don’t think it’s a hopeless cause for them, and even modest inroads into the black community could tip elections the GOP’s way.

Sure, African Americans have been resistant to changing their allegiance. The task for the GOP seems impossible. But I’m not really aware of much of an attempt by Republicans – particularly presidential candidates – to go into black neighborhoods with a consistent message explaining why conservative principles work for African Americans and others who have a disproportionate number of low-income earners in their ranks.

This smart and entertaining video by Alphonzo Rachel of PJ Media suggests a place Republicans can start: Simply by asking, “How has voting Democratic worked out for ya?”

67 thoughts on “Republicans and Black People”

  1. that’s actually not a smart way.

    People don’t lie being told why the choices they made were wrong. It comes off as condecsending.

    A far better way to convince black voters that conservative priciples would work for them is to go in front of black audiences and explain it.

    They also have to seek out audiences with black voters. If you are not willing to go on BET, or speak at places like the NAtional Urban League or NAACP meeting then they’ll never break through.

    1. Thoughtful comment. I agree about not winning people over to your side by being condescending and worse. That’s why I thought Rove’s anti-Obamacare ad directed at young people who voted for Obama twice and calling them stupid was, well, stupid.

      1. Sadly, many would leave the congregation if someone tried to urge them to vote conservative, even though they really are conservatives themselves. They believe in Jesus Christ. Pretty conservative, IMO.

        1. Perhaps we all need to have someone point out to us what we believe…and what we do not believe. To many of us, it has become a matter of the vote, but it only became a matter of our vote after we realized that we were not “belief-aligned” with the current administration. And so…we must learn what we hold true and what we hold false…and who represents those tenets.

    2. Yes, explaining conservative views what I’m talking about, but Republicans already do the NAACP – that’s box checking. I’m willing to bet the average black person doesn’t know what the National Urban League is. I don’t know all the Jewish groups. I don’t even particularly care about them. I’m talking about going into the neighborhoods – churches are a good place to start – to explain principles, getting picked up on the local news, and so forth.

      And I don’t think it’s condescending at all to ask people about the choices they’ve made. Blacks have been so resistant to changing their views that I think only by pointing out what’s gone wrong under the policies they’ve supported – and how bad things really are – would they be convinced to vote differently. It’s going to take a tougher message than just, “here’s conservatism and all the good it does.” When people are resistant to change, you need to get in their faces a bit. Challenging people is respecting them.

      1. Conservative Republicans shouldn’t have to reach out to Blacks…because if they are really conservative the message is the same for Black or White. Conservative principles.

        The obstacle for Republicans is the media as well as Black “leaders”. Any in roads to Blacks by whites is called pandering. Any in roads by Black Republicans and they are called “Uncle Toms” and “House Slaves”.

        The way to enlighten people with conservative principles is the same for white or black…Education. Educate people, treat them with respect, give them opportunities to achieve.

        Liberal philosophy is the opposite…Tell people what they should think, treat your opponents with disrespect, and tell people they have no opportunities because of someone else.

        1. It’s not about ‘reaching out to blacks’ It’s about reaching out to everyone.

          How do you educate people about a philosophy if you are unwilling to speak to them.

          Voters aren’t going to seek out candidates, candidates have to seek out voters and both convince them why their ideas are better and ask them for their vote.

          If you feel like black leaders are an obstacle to reaching black voters then find a way to bypass the leaders. The commnet about balck churches was spot on.

          1. Adam, the big divide in the conversation is that most Republican politicians are not conservatives. If they were they would be able to reach out to everyone.
            They may be conservative on certain things like tax but not about immigration or foreign policy or spending.

            Republicans also get caught up in social aspects which are also beyond what they should discuss.

            Republicans need to be more conservatives so they can educate others on being conservatives.

        2. I couldn’t agree more. The message is the same. I really don’t recall anyone reaching out to me as a young man when I settled on my positions on economics and politics. It was simply a matter of having listened and read and coming to a conclusion. And, at the time I was surrounded by the other side. Not saying that maybe others arrived at their positions likewise but doubtful. But if it takes something different, OK.

          1. That would be educational. But there’s a huge barrier to overcome, and I’m not sure how to do it.

            I spend a bit of time on “The Root”, the publication run by Skip Gates. I’ve asked how the GOP can convince the Black community that its members are something other than racists, and it’s tough to get responses other than additional attacks with justifications for those attacks ranging from the “Welfare Queen” to the “Southern Strategy” to ‘institutional racism.”

            I find it ironic that a publication run by Skip Gates (who claimed racism at a very racially balanced officer merely doing his job and keeping the peace) is home to a lot of people with similar attitudes. A lot of the sentiment is: “You are a racist. And if you deny it, you are a racist and a hypocrite.”

            I don’t know what the message is that will convince people that their best interests may not lie with the people who seem to own their votes.

      2. I agree with you Keith in challenging not only the black voters, but any voter. Unfortunate the GOP does a very bad job in this area. Also, most black voters are steadfast against change, especially when they have access to allot of entitlements that shows them they can get it all while doing nothing. It would be a huge culture shift if they went in another direction.

        We’re seeing allot of the entitlement issues beginning to crop up in border states where minority hispanic and illegals currently reside. The outburst last week at a Texas town hall event shows we’re going down the same path, they want elected officials to pander to their agenda, and allot of them are not even US citizens! Their parting comment of “We’ll Be Back” says it all.

        Between all the govt scandals and the ongoing domestic issues, I’m not sure how this current administration is going to survive.

  2. The Democrats are the ones who have kept blacks on the plantation all these years with their minimal life support and perpetual promise of if you just vote for me one more time . . . They have created a new class of permanently unemployed white people now who will receive the same treatment as well as poor unmarried white women, and they are attempting to do the same with Latinos. It becomes a generational thing. The best thing the conservatives can do (notice I didn’t say Republican) is to level with minorities and women, but don’t villify the victims (for that is what they are) but the perpetrators. And be prepared to be accepting.

      1. I don’t know if I’ve said it on this thread or another, but a Pew poll shows that 78% of people who are registered Republican or right leaning independents now see themselves as conservative/libertarian. If true, I would say ‘most’ Republicans are conservative. Unfortunately, they are the grassroots. The people with all the power, money and the media in their court are the 22% RINOs.

  3. I think Susana Martinez did a great job at the republican convention explaining how minorities align with conservative principles:

    And I don’t say that just because a Democrat is in the White House. I was a Democrat for many years. So were my parents.

    Before I ran for District Attorney, two Republicans invited my husband and me to lunch. And I knew a party-switch was exactly what they wanted.

    So, I told Chuck, we’ll be polite, enjoy a free lunch and then say goodbye.

    But we talked about issues-they never used the words Republican, or Democrat, conservative or liberal.

    We talked about many issues, like welfare – is it a way of life, or a hand-up?

    Talked about the size of government — how much should it tax families and small businesses?

    And when we left that lunch, we got in the car and I looked over at Chuck and said, “I’ll be damned, we’re Republicans.”

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    1. I grew up as a Democrat in NY. As did my parents.
      I changed over in my late teens. Because I realized that I was a Pat Moynihan Democrat and those people didn’t exist any more…not even Pat.

      1. I saw that speech too Julie and was impressed by her.
        I however remain skeptical, Cristy gave a good speech also.
        I would like to hear from someone who lives in report on the job she has done as Governor.

    2. I live in Santa Fe, NM and Susanna has done a wonderful job; especially with the budget she has. NM schools rank among the nation’s worst performing and she is aggressively working towards bettering them. Unfortunately for all of us, Susanna also has strong family values and takes care of a mentally disabled sister. By her choice, I do not think she wants to go further. I hope I am wrong on that, but that’s what I understand to be the case.

  4. Love Zo’s videos, and agree with him 99% of the time. Not this time. Unfortunately, the GOP is in such disarray right now, they can’t even convince their own base that they are any different from the Democrat party.

    1. The establishment GOP keeps letting the Dems frame the message portraying them as old white guys who suppress your votes, hate women, gays, brown and black people. Where’s the pushback ? There is none and that disgusts me even more than the spew coming from Dems.

      1. You’re right, DeniseVB. Although it’s not just a messaging problem in my opinion. The establishment GOP seems to be doing everything it can to defeat conservative ideals. For example, the GOP wanted nothing to do with the recall of the two Colorado senate Democrats, so the grassroots did it on their own. In the New Jersey special election to replace Lautenberg, the Republican candidate – Steve Lonegan – is getting zero support from the NRSC, so Rand Paul is campaigning for him. Nowadays, the Republican party seems to be more aligned with the Democrat party than they are with their own base. As a lifelong Republican, I can see the party has abandoned their principles and values. That impression is not going to be easy to change in my mind, much less in the mind of a well-propagandized Democrat.

    1. I disagree. This is exactly what he did too little of. Just because he got heckled? Of course he’s gonna get heckled. He should heckle back with arguments and ideas. They’d respect him in the end and maybe even listen.

      1. Not because he was heckled, Keith. The hecklers were organized by OFA.
        Romney seemed to be awkward around Black audiences – amost like he was trying too hard to please.
        He had a slight case of foot-in-mouth syndrome at times:
        ” I Can Relate To Black People, My Ancestors Once Owned Slaves ”
        Ironically, Romney was the best choice for Blacks. He had the tools to help them help themselves out of the cycle of poverty and govt. dependence.

      2. I agree, Keith. Romney folded on this one (and many other occasions IMO) when he should have played the hand he was dealt.
        Unlike the current “most popular guy” I DO believe in American exceptionalism. I have lived out of the US for a year and have come to realize how exceptional we are.
        We dream big. We welcome new ideas. We trust our traditions. We build on our wide ranging experience and people world wide still look to us for help in industrial development.
        We work hard, we treat people right and we trust God for all the details of every day life.
        No matter what the MSM tells their audiences, this is the America most of us know. We are problem solvers, innovative thinkers, hard workers and honest, industrious people who want our children to have a batter life than the life we have known.
        Our exceptionalism is not limited…truth be told, we have just begun. Opportunities exist for ALL our citizens – if we get the government out of the way and we teach people they do NOT have to settle for what the government determines they should have.
        This is the message. This is the time.
        The only questions:
        Who will be the messager? Who will be the leader? Who will bravely and strongly share the idea of American exceptionalism?

        1. Aileen, talk to any veteran that has spent time overseas and 99% of them will tell you that they missed the good ole’ USA.
          Many of the people that denigrate this great Country haven’t spent enough time away from Her.

        1. True.

          Yet to this date, there is a belief in the Black community (the Root readers and posters) that Romney disrespected his audience at the NAACP.

          I’m curious what it would have taken to equate to respect.

    1. Pathetic, that little white board. He writes the wrong things on it sometimes too. He’s over the hill and so is his brand of Republican politics.

      1. Yet a couple of nights ago I saw a Frank Luntz focus group on Fox. The topic was Syria. There was a good portion of the audience which was black, black Democrats included, and they were all against Obama on this issue. Everyone was appalled at Obama trying to milk ‘the children’ for all he could get in his speech.

        He hasn’t done much for blacks re the economy and nothing on black on black violence in his ‘home town’. How about Detroit? People’s eyes are starting to come unglued.

        1. He hadn’t done much for blacks up until last November, either. If the election were held again today, in my opinion he’d still get very close to that 93%.

  5. Here’s an example of racism; a 100% Black community casts every single vote for the Black candidate if his opponent is White.
    Another Black community cast 110% of the vote for the Black candidate.
    That really happened in the last Presidential election.
    The Black community cast 90+% of their votes nationwide for MrObama in the last election, even though he did absolutely nothing to help their community, was stridently pro-gay, and didn’t bother himself to campaign in their neighborhoods.
    If there is a Black candidate running against a White candidate, the assumption that Black voters will choose on the basis of race is apparent. That’s racism.

    The Repub party in my congressional district (formerly SenFlake’s) ran a decently qualified Black man last year against a Dem alleged communist, bi-sexual White woman who promised to support MrObama’s agenda. The White woman won the election, even though my district is a solid conservative area.. And, that’s racism, too.

    We’re a polarized nation now, thanks to the MSM, the Dems, the fear of being called a racist, and it will take years to get back to where we were in 2001. Blacks like to assume the mantle of eternal victims, and Whites are sick and tired of being held responsible for ancient history.
    Any White candidate would be wasting their time trying to reach out to an entrenched Black community that doesn’t trust his motives or believes that he would help them in any way.

    That’s the key, “help them in any way”, to the answer of why Blacks vote for the Dem; the Dem promises to take care of them.
    And, of course, that’s probably racist, too.

  6. I wonder if having good conservative role models like Allan West and Ben Carson will make a difference. That’s a question rolling around in my head without an answer as yet.

    1. The problem is, without the MSM behind them, endorsing them, all you will see is sound bites or an article about their views on page 14 of the local or national paper.

      I do agree they would make some excellent leaders.

  7. I think we are done with black Presidents for the remainder of the millenium. WASPS are out – Hispanics are now the minority majority and, imo, will dominate the political scene as early as 2020-2024. Christie may just be the last White hope, as much as it pains me to say. Hillary does not have a lock on 2016, in spite of her smug, self-assuredness.
    Lo-info voters will dominate the political landscape for the rest of time, imo. Obama did accomplish his goal of fundamentally transforming the United States of America ….into a permanent welfare state.
    Si Se Puede! And he did!

    1. I’ll sit at home if Christie or another Bush is the Republican candidate. I told myself never again after the 2012 election. Although, if a viable conservative runs third party, I’ll vote for him/her.

      1. We have a little over a year to determine who might be the viable conservative candidates.
        The Tea Party is still surviving, and they have demonstrated so far that the candidates they promote and support have proven to be what the Country needs.
        Ears up and eyes open, dismiss the rhetoric spewed by the left and we will be OK.

        1. You’re right, AFVet. The other good thing about mid-terms is the lo-info voters usually don’t turn out. We have a good chance of taking the Senate and keeping the House – In which case it doesn’t matter so much who wins in 2016. Barring a miracle. Obama should pretty much be toast by 2014.

  8. Why do Republicans need to ‘do something’ for Blacks? Blacks sound like they must be taken by the hand and led off the plantation. Just what do they want the GOP to do? The Utopia promised by the leftist progs does not exist. Perhaps they think it does. The leftist have failed to provide it for it’s Black voters who seem to want it above all. Can’t give what one does not have. So far, Blacks have relied on promises given by leftists. Promises they can not possibly keep because what they promise does not exist.

  9. “But I’m not really aware of much of an attempt by Republicans – particularly presidential candidates – to go into black neighborhoods with a consistent message explaining why conservative principles work”

    But I’m not really aware of much of an attempt by Republicans to go ANYWHERE with a consistent message explaining why conservative principles work. Fixed it for you.

    Republicans don’t want a conservative message out. They want to run things like Democrats. It’s all lip service.

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