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Video || Obama Calls Prop 8 Case Victors

President Obama today called two of the plaintiffs in the Supreme Court case that effectively overturned California’s Proposition 8, which had banned same sex marriage. The plaintiffs got the call while conducting an interview with MSNBC.

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49 Responses to Video || Obama Calls Prop 8 Case Victors

    • To quote that guy on the TV ad with the kids: ‘IT’S THE MOST INCREDIBLE THING I’VE EVER SEEN!!!”

      Our late President can’t find his way to the stage for his own speeches on time — being up to fifty-three minutes late, even when another head of state is involved.

      Yet, from thousands of miles away,while on Air Force One, Obama can somehow manage to pinpoint the precise time and location of these two women. Odd how no one on the scene seemed the least bit surprised with this phone call.

      Too bad Mr. Perpetual Campaign couldn’t manage the same precision when it came to Benghazi. Maybe it’s because dead men tell no tales, and can’t be counted on to provide votes.

  1. “With regard to our nation’s illegal immigration problem, the goal should be to solve it — not win some political battle.

    If you want to solve a problem, and not win some fight, it means no one will get everything he or she wants but will have to compromise (give up some things) but in the end we achieve a workable solution.

    The solution, to work, must but be simple, not complex. The more complex, the more problems that will arise from it. Complex solutions are not solutions and a recipe for more fights and confusion.

    So… I thought I would take a stab at a simple, not perfect, solution for illegal immigration. I may be missing something (you will tell me) but I am trying to make this bare bones easy while achieving the goals of the nation. Read the entire proposal below, and tell me what you think. DO NOT EXPECT MY PROPOSAL WILL BE 100 percent of what YOU want — instead ask yourself if it is a giant step forward and addresses the issues in a simple and manageable way.

    Problem 1: Every day we get people entering the USA illegally (or staying beyond visas — I will get to this later.)

    Simple Solution: Seal the Borders: Don’t tell me we don’t have the money — we do. We can stop doing stupid thinks like the IRS, in just two years, spending $50 million on conferences involving line dancing and trinkets. (They don’t have receipts for the other years and you can expect the same absurd waste.) We can sell empty government buildings (the number of buildings is staggering!) and everyone, including the president, can tighten the belt (is this really the right time to be going to Africa to the tune of $60-100 million dollars?) Cost overruns and waste at the Pentagon are breathtakingly large… and I could go on and on and on. We just need to start being smart about our money.

    We can figure out how to seal the borders (it just isn’t that hard!) and we can afford it.

    Problem 2: What about the 11 MILLION IN THE USA ILLEGALLY NOW? If you speak to the 11 million, you know their big fear and that is that ICE will deport them. That is what THEY want solved.

    Simple Solution: Give them green cards (we already know how to do that and have a mechanism), but make them ineligible for citizenship since there should be some price for violating our laws. They can stay and work forever and be good neighbors with green cards — but they can’t be citizens for violating our immigration law and then getting lucky. Green cards are a solution in that they will give them the wanted security ICE is not coming for them in the middle of the night and we will have them working legally and paying taxes. They will be good neighbors.

    If by chance some want to become citizens, there is a path — the old fashion one that every immigrant who became a U.S. citizen followed. They should follow the rule for immigration that have been in effect for decades. The person with the green card can return home to his or her country, stay there for a period of time and make application for citizenship. We don’t have to invent any new red tape under my proposal — do it the old fashion way. It takes some work to become a citizen — and inconvenience of going home for a period of time — but it will show the level of desire and commitment. It will also confirm to us the person really wants to be a citizen.

    The green card solution simple and fair — it does not allow someone who has violated our law to ‘jump the line’ or unjustly annoy those who HAVE followed the legal path to citizenship. The person illegally in our country under my proposal is already getting rewarded with a green card and security from deportation — that should be enough. Their children born here will be citizens. The foregoing should be enough for those here illegally and who are good neighbors to each of us and it is generous.

    This is not amnesty. No one gets handed citizenship. This is a solution to solve a tough problem.

    Problem 3 — Overstayed Visas: In the future, we won’t have to worry about borders being penetrated but we will run into issues of people staying beyond visas. I am told that 40 percent of those in this country now illegally are in that category.

    Simple Solution: Here is how we do it (and it is simple): If after the point of enactment of this law someone comes to the USA on a legal visa and overstays, if that person gets caught (he or she won’t have a green card), there will be deportation back to the home country and no USA visas will be granted that person for a period of time (five years?) There are already in existence laws to punish employers who hire people illegally in this country — enforce those laws and perhaps increase the penalty.”
    per Greta van Susteran

    • That sounds better than anything that Congress or the Senate could come up with after a year of ‘meetings’, and wouldn’t be a thousand pages long, and voted on before anyone actually reads the entire thng.

      • Here’s a counter-offer:
        Seal the border, then round up all the illegal aliens and send them back to their homelands.
        If it took 10 years for them to all get here, then it will take 10 years for us to send them home.

        Gee, we don’t even need a whole page for that.

          • Looks good in theory but considering the poverty in Mexico putting them all on our welfare/Medicaid system would finally finish what Obama started.
            UNLESS by annexing we also get control of Carlos Slim and the rest of the thugs money that have no problem seeing their own people killed by drug violence as long as they keep making money off of Obamaphones and crony capitalism deals north of their border.

          • Geoff and Sadie, The Oregonian reported two days ago that in our small state there are 69 drug trafficking organizations who are supplied by two of the most violent major Mexican cartels. Deaths are related to this story. They are here already. I’m for srdem’s solution.

          • I know this isn’t going to be popular, but I’m all about legalizing drugs and make those who deal in them pay taxes. That would take much of the power out of the hands of the cartels because they are here.

          • That would be great except none of them work. That’s why Mexico gets its panties in a bind every time we want to close the border. They want our money flowing there because they don’t have any.

        • My husband waited his turn to come here from an oppressive Eastern European country where he lived in abject poverty. He played by the rules, came here legally, immediately took it upon himself to learn English in ESL classes, assimilated, got a job, never took a dime in government benefits and became a proud American citizen. He feels like he was played for a sucker and wonders why the rules only apply to some people.

          • You raise a very important point with your husband’s journey to US citizenship. In the current Congressional illegal immigration hysteria in Washington, there has been absolutely no discussion on unwinding the ridiculously complex path to citizenship for those law-abiding folks who follow the rules. Their 10-15 year journey US citizenship should be reduced to a far more reasonable time frame. Congrats to your husband.

      • Not many people can read legislative language–it’s all cites to other sections and other laws–but they could provide plain English interpretation in time for people to read that.

    • There is still a major problem with Greta’s solution. The 11 million (more like 20 million) illegals with freshly issued green cards will be competing with the 11.8 million unemployed Americans for what few jobs are available in this depressed economy. Since these newly legalized illegals won’t be eligible for Obamacare and employers will no longer be penalized for hiring them, what is to prevent them from getting a leg up on hiring over American citizens, especially when the penalty phase of Obamacare kicks in? When an employer can save from $6,000 to $15,000 per employee just by hiring a newly legalized illegal, what do you think they’re going to do? Business owners are going to do whatever is best for their company’s bottom line. NO TO ANY LEGALIZATION OF ILLEGAL ALIENS!

      • All the more reason then to be “fair” and repeal Obamacare and have No one forced to take it.
        I’m still betting thought that even after the NBA and NFL buckles and does the propaganda tour there still won’t be enough young males sign up and the whole entire fraud collapses from its own weight.

  2. Something I’ve carried along with me on my journey from progressive to conservative is a belief in the Constitution and especially the Bill of Rights. I don’t happen to see marriage as a civil right nor in the domain of the federal government. However, unlike the Left which expects the Supreme Court to always rule in their favor or else, I accept the decisions by the Court today and think conservatives should not make this issue the battlefield of the elections of 2014 and 2016. Automatic citizenship and automatic voting eligibility are more serious challenges we need to prevail against along with the ‘usual suspects’ issues like the economy and unemployment and the scandals of this administration.

    • A civil right or not, it became a civil rights issue when the government stuck it’s greedy hand out to issue marriage licenses for fees, enact laws governing who can marry who, and the federal government decided that married couples should receive special tax cuts.
      The state (the government) should get out of the marriage business altogether, it’s really a concern for individuals and their church.
      Those who endorse the “traditional” marriage between one man and one woman can do so in many ways, the same with those whose idea of marriage is between those of the same sex.
      Those without a church can form a civil union, company, corporation, or whatever they want to call it.

      • Well, it depends on how a person views marriage. Some religions view it as a sacrament. I view it as a social contract which has existed for thousands of years even outside of the Judeo-Christian tradition, and its purpose was to form a family unit which had the understood intention to have children, be responsible for their welfare, and give them a nameable father and mother. Until this gay marriage issue arose, I don’t think the state was involved too much other than in issuing or recognizing the contract.

        I will agree with you that being married, with or without children, is a personal choice, and that the tax system should be equal for all wage earners.

  3. Obama’s walking on rainbows he’s so happy with this Supreme Court decision. Now he and Reggie can tie the knot.

    Chalk up the Supreme Court as the third and final failure of the three branches of the government. Broken beyond repair.

  4. Were the plaintiffs “Afro-American” (Negro) or “Hispanic/Latino” (Mexican)?? Or maybe they were Muslim?

    Whatever, he is sucking up again, and sticking his Pinocchio nose where it does not belong!

  5. I see that the NYT lede is that public opinion led and the court followed. That is not good, not good at all. That’s what the Democratic Party wants: the country to be driven hither and dither by trumped up polls which suit them.

  6. OT. California public schools are receiving a federal grant to train teenagers to sell the idea of Obamacare to their parents. This is something which needs to be brought before the courts immediately.

    • The country is going mad I tell you, mad. Our children’s children’s children will think of this generation as Americans who were just plain stupid or apathetic or both.

    • Since being accepted ( I hope ) for membership into the FES, Flat Earth Society, I have altered my screen moniker to the appropriate setting.
      Thank you Mr. Koffler for your sponsorship.
      Keith Koffler 2020
      A man with vision

    • At least the states still have an option in this matter.
      Consider the Military Chaplains dilemma.
      As a federal organization they will be required to conform to this ruling whether they want to or not.
      I can see many of them leaving the service.