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Senate Hands Obama Striking Gun Bill Defeat

From Politico:

The Senate has rejected a bipartisan proposal to expand background checks on gun sales, handing President Barack Obama and Democratic leaders a major defeat on one of the key pieces of the president’s second-term agenda.

The vote was 54-46, with only four Republicans crossing the aisle and voting with the Democrats in favor of the bipartisan proposal by Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Pat Toomey (R-Pa.). Sixty votes were needed.

That’s the first item on Obama’s agenda, shot down. Excuse the metaphor. Looks the White House campaign to throw as much emotion at the issue as possible has failed.

The vote is not close the the 60 needed to proceed to a final floor vote, which would only require 50 votes for passage. That means the legislation is most likely finished.

And don’t let the White House fool you that the bill wasn’t allowed an “up or down vote” – anything that moves in the Senate, except for a few budget bills, needs 60 votes. That goes for legislation backed by Republicans and Democrats. It’s standard operating procedure in the Senate, which operates more on a basis of consensus than the House.

88 thoughts on “Senate Hands Obama Striking Gun Bill Defeat”

  1. This is probably the best lecture I’ve heard the President give in a long time.

    While he blames the Republicans for everything, shouldn’t he also acknowledge that Harry Reid voted against the bill too?

    Nope. that would be against narrative.

      1. “I can’t listen to him, but by watching his mannerism and haughtiness I could tell barry is lecturing everyone again.” – Misscheryl

        Easy call. That’s all he EVAH does!

    1. Yeah, in that clip I heard him blame a minority for forcing its will on the country. Pardonnez-moi but the Republicans don’t have 60 votes in the Senate. Wish they did.

          1. I understand Mark Kirk; he is from IL and he is worried about getting reelected: sorry Mark you don’t get my vote next time!!

          2. I couldn’t tell you. I think Toomey was the ‘bipartisan’ co-sponsor of the bill with Manchin. You’re right about Kirk. Susan Collins, a Republican in a liberal state. McCain, senility?

          3. Toomey and Manchin are real life buddys. Kirk said the gun legislation deal was made on Manchin’s yacht the Black Tie and apparently a good time was had for all. This seems to be a well known deal making party boat, excuse me yacht. And Kirk offered this in comments in an article on TheHill blog I think. I don’t have the immediate citation but it is easy to find.

      1. I wonder if he would like it if “minorites” were ALWAYS powerless, as he seems to think they should be now? That might have rewritten some things from the Civil War to the Civil Rights movement if we went with “Majority Rules” then.

        Although as British citizens (more people were loyal to the Crown or entirely indifferent when a minority of local “terrorist” rebelled against the established authority, after all), we wouldn’t have a written Constitution for Obama to have to savage, now, would we? But I doubt his bloodline would have allowed him to be our monarch under those circumstances, as the Windsors really didn’t spend a lot of time in Kenya…

  2. It’s a whole new ballgame now. He can’t be re-elected and those than can aren’t willing to sacrifice their political future for him. Things are going to get very uncomfortable or this pud.

    1. Bingo! Many Dems lost their seats in 2010, and they will be unwilling to throw themselves on their swords to save him this time around.

    2. “It’s a whole new ballgame now. He can’t be re-elected…” – Misscheryl

      HA-HA! Jokes on YOU!

      You don’t “elect” “Dear Leaders”! It’s more like this:

      “The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering silmite held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am your king!” (Apologies to Monty Python and The Holy Grail).

      You know, like that.

      Just remember this;

      “Never in my whole life did i swear allegiance to him. Magistrate: It matters not, he IS your KING …” (Braveheart)

      It didn’t end well for William Wallace personally, but it did eventually work out. That, and faith in G_d, are really all we’ve got in the face of the scourge that is Obama.

      I wouldn’t put too much faith in that “election” thing anyway, even in the mid-terms. Allowing the Republicans to keep the House, which was done on his word last time, has now served its purpose; there’s no further reason to let them continue. The voting machines are all electronic now, and the programmers tend to be Obama supporters…

      1. nope.. his dinner list is already out.. No one who voted against will be there. I would love to be a fly on the wall listening to the whine.

  3. Fox News botched that lecture. I switched to pmsnbc to get the full effect. Cramps half way through gave way to nausea when Mathews started praising Dear Leader on the lecture of the century. The “speech” was classic community organizing with a huge dose of petulance. What a cry-baby sore loser. We have just been warned about any future losses. I’m surprised he didn’t explain how HE is going to act since Congress can not.

    1. wait until the next press conference, I’m sure he’ll tell you all about how he now has to go all “Jack Bauer” on gun control for our own good, er, for the good of the children.

      1. No kidding. Did you catch the bit with OBiteMe and the Gosnell trial? He said, “I can’t comment on it because it’s an active trial.” Oh right, he’s worried about the children.

        1. Suddenly he can’t comment, but had no problem inserting himself against George Zimmerman with that comment that if he had a son, “he’d look like Trayvon.” Augh!

          1. And another flip-flop: doesn’t want to prejudice the Ft. Hood trial by giving out Purple Hearts! Spins on a dime!

  4. Gallup: Only 4% of Americans Think Gun Control is an Important Problem
    April 16, 2013
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    ( – Only 4 percent of Americans think guns and gun control are an important problem facing the country, according to Gallup, and far more Americans are concerned about the economy, unemployment and the federal debt.

    In its poll from Apr. 4-7, Gallup surveyed 1,005 adults by telephone and asked, “What do you think is the most important problem facing the country today?”

    Respondents answered in the following order:

    Economy in general 24%

    Unemployment/Jobs 18%

    Dissatisfaction with Government 16%

    Federal budget deficit/Federal debt 11%

    Healthcare 6%

    Ethical/Moral/Family decline 5%

    Immigration/Illegal aliens 4%

    Education 4%

    Guns/Gun control 4%

    Situation with North Korea 4%

    Lack of Money 3%

    Welfare 2%

    Lack of respect for each other 2%

    Poverty/Hunger/Homelessness 2%

    Foreign aid/Focus overseas 2%

    Taxes 2%

  5. To paraphrase a famous movie, ‘This action today calls for a really futile and stupid gesture on somebody’s part,’

    And Obama supplied the same in grand fashion…

  6. “Call your congressman” was the email I got from the WH today along w/ the usual spam they send me. So we did. Told them we got one Chicago too many and nothing in this bill would have prevented Newtown. Response? Your average 6 yr. old displays more maturity.

    Meanwhile we got a guy in Philly that makes nazi executioners look like Mary Englebrite but reporting it threatens the industry that is abortion in this country.

  7. In my opinion, this isn’t about a defeat for Preezy Revenge. It’s about a win for our Bill of Rights. A lot more happened today with this vote. The conservatives (Cruz, Lee and Paul) swayed the squishes to vote against the establishment. That gives me hope that the worm is turning for the Republican party. This was a great victory for liberty, but we can’t rest on our laurels. The left never gives up. They’ll be back.

  8. D’oh. We ALL want guns kept out of the hands of criminals (hello? Chicago) and the mentally fragile (who will still kill by other means if a gun’s not available). I think it was the other crap in the bill (background checks on EVERYBODY !!) that was the turn off.

    I’m not sure why Obama is so personally involved with gun control?

    1. “I’m not sure why Obama is so personally involved with gun control?”

      I know exactly why he wanted this bill to pass. It has nothing to do with the children. The Manchin-Toomey (and Shumer, the overseer) amendment paved the way for universal background checks. In my opinion, this amendment would have been the first baby step on the road to confiscation.

      1. Boy, Susan, do I agree with you and a lot of people here also think that is what is going on. How can you trust this government today; believe anything they say without a different motive involved!

      2. I’ve always been pro choice as in chose not to own a gun. Once Andy passed the dark-of-night gun control bill for NYS, I figured it was time to stop letting other people protect my second amendment right. That makes me an unintended consequence of the law and a future gun owner! All the BS paperwork required has definitely infringiated me. I’m still waiting for my order to ship.

    2. You aren’t sure why Obama is so personally involved with gun control? Where have you been? First, as an anti-Constitutionalist and anti-liberty guy, Obama supports anything that will take away our rights and our liberty. Secondly, as a dictator wannabe, he knows a populace cannot be controlled if they have the means to defend themselves.

  9. Wow, I’ve never seen Barry so angry! It was great. He was like a little kid, pissed off and pouting because he didn’t get his own way.

  10. Gallup says only 4% of Americans think gun control is an important issue. It is Obama and Co. who are lying through their teeth when they say they have the overwhelming support of the people. Oh well, let them campaign on it in 2014: they’ll never resuscitate that dead horse.

  11. It is disturbing how much Obama has exploited these families and how much both Obama and Gabrielle Gifford’s husband have exploited her. Before she was shot, she was a Blue Dog Democrat, not a liberal, and an avid fan of guns.

    1. Her publicity hungry husband has used Gabby as Obama has exploited the children of Sandy Hook and their parents. There is a place in hell reserved for this type of people.

  12. I just love (NOT) the way Sir Weasel said “they” made it about politics. It’s been about politics all along Barack and you led the parade.
    The way he thinks of (all) Americans as utter fools is astounding.
    And btw – your constant weaselly posture about America being such a piss poor country has weakened us in the eyes of the world. It is why the Boston Marathon was bombed. We really need our 2nd Amendment rights intact now more than ever, since we do not have a president that believes in, and is willing to do the right things in order to protect this country and its citizens.

  13. I think gun registration was the issue.

    “This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!”
    · Adolph Hitler (1889-1945), April 15, 1935

    1. I’m not sure this is a valid quote or timeline. It might be a popular “Reductio ad Hitlerum” aka association fallacy. I think it was somewhere around 1938 that more dramtic gun control was passed to keep Jews from owning guns.

  14. Poor guy. Married to a busy, single mother, can’t shoot a basket anymore, ingrateful public moaning about not paying more taxes for the good of all, the dang sequester that the Repubs were supposed to shoot down screwed up everything, and then Jay-Z goes to Cuba when he asked him not to go.
    Nothing good is happening for him so far, and it’s about to get really worse.

    1. Two more things to add to your list. Sen. Max Baucus, co-author of Obamacare is now worried about the “huge trainwreck coming down” with implementation of the law. Remember, Baucus received a bribe for his vote – expanded Medicare coverage for victims of asbestos exposure in a mine in Libby, Mont.

      Rep.Lamar Smith says the “It’s hard to believe, but the Senate immigration bill is worse than we thought. Despite assurances, the border is not secured before almost everyone in the country illegally is given amnesty. The bill guarantees there will be a rush across the border to take advantage of massive amnesty.”

      “And the Senate proposal offers amnesty to far more illegal immigrants than we thought. In addition to most of the 11 million illegal immigrants already in the country, the bill offers to legalize the relatives of illegal immigrants outside the U.S. and even others who have already been deported back home. So current immigration laws are shredded.

    2. There is still hope for this country yet.
      Good day today watching Obama pout. So true everything you said srdem65..not to mention funny:)

  15. Well I guess we remove one Bush and one SS and add 2 NRA to the “Who to Blame” Dartboard. Stand By for more parading, this is not over yet.

    There might be hope yet for some changes these next 4 years!

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  17. Not Nabob the Knothead

    This Administration is imploding from within.
    Why hasn’t Eric “Rat Snake” Holder put in his 2 cents worth since he is our top law enforcement official? Possibly because he is CLUELESS, just like our MostArrogantOne.
    and I’m being kind by saying “Rat Snake”.

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