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Obama is Not Going to Take Away America’s Guns

The mad dash to purchase firearms before President Obama’s new gun plans are unveiled has not helped anyone but gun manufacturers, who must be delighted silly at the sudden surge in profits Obama has brought them.

I don’t blame people for being concerned and wanting to get a weapon before something happens. But nothing much is going to happen, and that’s because Obama is not going to seriously pursue the issue.

guns 2Obama has other fish to fry. Or, since we’re talking guns, bigger game to hunt. He has precious little political capital with which to get things done, and he wants to spend it elsewhere.

Sure, Obama supports gun control. But what we are seeing out of the White House is largely a charade acted out to please certain groups and assure the White House of its own commitment to being wonderful people who want to protect children.

A president, especially one of limited popularity like Obama, cannot do too many big things. And what Obama really wants to do is grant amnesty to America’s illegal immigrants and win the budget battles with Congress – the latter to ensure federal spending doesn’t dip and taxes continue to go up.

The gun issue is merely an inconvenience that the White House quickly moved out of the way with a commission and today’s gun control announcement. Going forward, I doubt you will hear much about the issue, and I don’t think there will be much done on Capitol Hill.

That’s why, for example, Obama’s press conference this week was scheduled for Monday instead of Thursday, the day after the gun announcement, when he could have given the proposals maximum publicity. He wanted to use the press conference to talk about the budget, not guns.

Obama will spend this year and possibly next focusing on immigration and the budget. Guns are a sideshow.

53 Responses to Obama is Not Going to Take Away America’s Guns

  1. “This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!” ~Adolph Hitler, 1935,on The Weapons Act of Nazi Germany

  2. (Sigh) Dear Leader will probably hold a media event at a gun mfg plant after 1Q earnings come in, telling everyone how his “Bullet Stimulus” helped American business too.

  3. A “sideshow”? Oh, man, you can’t know the intensity of the feelings that have been brought to the surface by this talk of gun control; it’s ugly out here.
    If anyone thinks that the frantic buying of firearms is because the people think they might want to buy a gun in the future and it will be denied, then the whole of DC is out of touch with the rest of our country.

    They’re “mad as hell, and not going to take it anymore” and are preparing to defend their rights against a government they think doesn’t listen to them and wants to control everything. .

    • I agree, srdem. Not sure if the D.C. elites realize what a firestorm they have created out here in flyover country. Even many of the die-hard Obot drones draw the line at allowing the government to disarm them.

        • With the exception of Fairfax, Arlington, and Loudon, Virginia is flyover country. The elites from the northeast “fly over” on their way to Florida. LOL

          People down here are royally pissed off too. Since Southeastern VA is basicly one huge military base most people who live in this state have served in the military and took an oath to defend the US Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic…an oath they still take seriously. They are armed to the teeth, and know how to shoot because got plenty of target practice in WWII Korea, Nam, Grenada, Panama, Iraq, Somalia, Bosnia and Afganistan, etc. and consider anyone trying to take their guns away a “domestic enemy of the Constitution.”

    • Fully agree, srdem.

      I think Barry-O is waiting for another mass murder. It’ll make it so much easier to pass the draconian gun laws he prefers. There aren’t enough dead people yet. But there will be pretty soon. Gun-free zones remain firmly in place. The shooting galleries are open and all that psycho-babble didn’t mean squat.

      Local gun store had one…count it, one…handgun left yesterday. No bullets anywhere. Tried to order primers for rolling our own. No dice. The populace is armed and it is pissed.

  4. I think all the gun control nonsense will continue right up to the next “fiscal cliff” debates in March. While the issue of the Constitutional Right to keep and bear arms will continue to rage in this country, the current problem of gun control is most likely a smoke screen to deflect the populace from the coming nightmare of spending reform.

    The administration knows that something has to be done to rein in spending, but if it can get the uneducated masses to look the other way, ie at gun control, it can continue to try its magic tricks with the budget. All magicians know that you have to use misdirection to make a trick work, and that may just be way this entire gun control debate is about – misdirection.

    If the GOP gets so wrapped up in the gun fight, and the public is only hammered with gun talk, we all may very well see the run up to the next cliff blamed on the GOP again.

    The emperor may have no clothes, but he wields a very dangerous magic wand.

  5. KK,
    Dead…solid…perfect summation. The gun debate while “Execrable” is nothing more than a bread and circuses theatrical diversion. A tactic designed so that by years end you’ll be saying “buenos dias” to your new fellow Americans. All 11 million of them.

    • As Obama has always done, move from one distraction to the next. Never with solutions, only with smoke and mirrors and all the time keeping the important issues out of sight. I have to hope (ugh what a word) that they are incapable of maintaining this charade for four more years and the curtain is torn in two, exposing the truth.

      • It might backfire on him though. If Marco Rubio is on the ticket in 2016 the GOP will be saying “Muchos Gracias” to all 11 million of them on on election night. LOL

    • I agree that instead of a “sideshow” the word should be “diversion”. Isn’t it a community organizing tactic to whip up the masses with a “common” problem and then use it as leverage to wrestle power away from the ones in charge (congress)? Maybe Obama is testing out which “common” problem he should go with. Or using them all to get power bit by bit.

  6. It may be a sideshow, and I hope it is, but even so His Arrogance is able to accomplish yet another division among us. The people who don’t know, own or care about guns are perfectly willing to surrender the 2nd Amendment rights (and privacy) of those who do, just like the non-rich are willing to surrender the earnings of “the rich” and the non-religious abortion crowd is willing to surrender the religious freedom of others. He has us cannabalizing our own country; it is so deeply disturbing.

  7. You are wildly wrong Keith, for the first time since i’ve been reading your post.

    You state that Obama won’t be doing much because of his limited popularity and limited political capital.

    He doesn’t see it that way. He sees that everything he does is correct. He sees that only people who have a grudge and are simply mad must be against his proposals. That is he always uses Infinite Statements such as “Every economist” or “Everyone with Commonsense”, or from this past week, “I don’t think anybody would consider my position unreasonable here”.

    He sees that his position is reasonable and the only reason the GOP is against it is because it is against him, personally. He takes it personally if someone disagrees with him.

  8. Maybe Obama isn’t going to take away America’s guns, but we should still buy all the guns and ammo we can afford, and we should move to a red state to starve the beast.

  9. To use a tactic form the Alinsky playbook…let the GOP suggest gun control measures go forth with mandatory VOTER PICTURE ID tied to every state. Failure to do so will defund Fed education and Pell grant funding to the states. Then let the DEMs try to weasel out of supporting it “for the children’s sake.”

  10. NRA called him a ‘elitist hyprocrite’ that’s kind. He and his followers are delusional they have no idea about how dangerous it is to continue to strip
    away American’s Constitutional rights. These people live in an isolated
    bubble and are just trying to make America the utopia they think we ought to
    be European nanny state. Go back and look at dictators of the past Hitler,
    Musolinni, Franco and Stalin all started down the dangerous road by taking
    advantage of the crash/depression needy people and that how it starts.

    • Exactly. They might think that the gun buyers are a group of red-neck hillbillys who want to fight off the revenuers or a right-wing militia group, but they’re wrong.
      It’s the middle class, working or not, that is arming itself.

      It’s past time for the inhabitants of the DC bubble to get out into the “trenches” of the real America. The one where the unemployment offices are filled to capacity, where empty storefronts and closed businesses, stand along with the millions of foreclosed homes.
      Come on out to fly-over country and see the half-empty restaurants, the empty parking lots at the malls, the lack of real rush-hour traffic.
      Check out the filled parking lots at Walmart, the 99cent stores and the swap meets. This is where we are, out here where no one looks.

      • So true of the place where I live in Central Oregon. The anger is boiling, but the elites in that DC-NYC corridor just don’t think we count.

        • I live in AZ, too–SrDem is on the money about the vacant gaps in the malls, the overgrown weeds of empty houses, the off-the-books employment…anything to scrape by. And most people are NOT on the stamps or unemployment because they are lazy slugs who want a govt check.

      • And when even the deluded followers wake up when something affects
        them directly who will they turn to? You guessed it Americans who have the brains and ability to take care of themselves middle America
        and the men and women who work hard and live within the Constitution
        and prosper. Elitist tend not to be very brave when push comes to shove. But we God fearing gun toting folks will be just fine.


  11. The subject has allowed NY (for now and probably other states like IL later) to add another layer to their bureaucracy with the q. five year registration renewals. You can bet they will charge hefty registrations fees. Still, let them be the guinea pigs and let us see how it works out for them because the criminal elements will have no problem getting guns illegally.

  12. “Sure, Obama supports gun control.”
    In reality, Preezy Revenge supports gun control solely for his political opponents. He is perfectly happy being armed to the teeth via statism. He loves performing murder by drone and having all those large, heavily armed men surrounding him and his family 24/7. The statist needs armaments. That is the only way he can win in the end – by advocating the leviathan, centralized government and disarming his ideological opponents.

  13. you dead on target Keith. This has been a major distraction to his administration. But it has also buried allot of other pending issues and investigations – Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Syria, federal budget, etc. He is due a big “Wag the Dog” situation soon to keep all the little issues buried for another few years.

  14. You may be correct with respect to his overarching distraction strategy. But until we see or hear the specifics of what his 19 (or whatever the number is) orders will be, it is pure speculation on the degree to which he will try to infringe constitutional rights. I would not be surprised to see at least a few of them stomp rather agressively on the toes of current and future gun owners. Which in itself is another distraction strategy.

    • It was 19 rules that Joe announced. The number 19 holds significance to Islamists like Calypso Louie. The other day Rush mentioned Farrakhan’s speech at the million man march and the number 19, so had to look it up for myself.

      “… Abraham Lincoln, the sixteenth president. Thomas Jefferson, the third president, and 16 and three make 19 again. What is so deep about this number 19? Why are we standing on the Capitol steps today? That number 19 — when you have a nine you have a womb that is pregnant. And when you have a one standing by the nine, it means that there’s something secret that has to be unfolded. …”

  15. I would once again recommend accessing the FBI-SHR database on homicides to emphasize that the vast majority of homicides of young children are not committed with firearms.

    Set victim ages at 0-5 and 6-11.

    Set column variable on “Weapon Used”

    From 1980 through 2010, twenty-five thousand young children were murderred. Only four thousand of them were killed with guns.

    The vast majority of murdered children are brutally beaten, burned, bludgeoned, strangled and stabbed ton death.

    If you reset the column variable to Victim offender relationship, you find that children are very seldom murdered by som psycho down the street. Murdered children are almost invariably killed by family members and acquaintances. Sociological studies with more detailed info reveal thatnthe family members are mothers, putative fathers who have reason to suffer from paternal uncertainty, step fathers, mothers, and mothers’ new boyfriend.

    The fact thatnthe safest environment for children that exposes them to the lowest risk of being murdered suggests obvious solutions.
    Rather than ban guns, Obama should take steps to reverse the historic disintegration of the much maligned, traditional family rather than promote policies that undermine the family such as welfare and gay marriage.

  16. Ever notice that what Obama does is either cosmetic or designed to collapse under its own weight such as is the case with Obamacare. With Obama care it will fall apart and medicaid will be expanded with all of the taxes remaining in place.

    He also delights in taking actions that are an affront to taxpayers and dont in any way benefit the two thirds of his supporters that are free riders. At some point I suspect that his personal and political luck will run out as he has stretched a community college resume a long way with the net result being he and his family are having an eight year dream vacation.

  17. what about fast and furious? Benghazi ? Arming the Muslim brotherhood? sitting as president of the UN security council? Bombing 6 other countries killing innocents as well as suspected terrorist?[ just like Bush] finally WHO is he? Congress cares? they passed NDAA to prove it?

  18. After the cloak of darkness routine here in NY I will not rule out anything that this administration might do over the next four years. The fact that this president is afraid of a new Revolutionary war I am leery of due to the fact that he is friends with evil doers. The only thing that “might” persuade me to believe this information is that now he is hearing from police, and military personnel who will defend their Constitution and the people first. As is should be when a person performs treason.

  19. Not that it matters to Keith, but after reading this post, I no longer have interest in spending time on this site. Too many other sites to frequent where someone doesn’t throw cold water on the flames of truth. You sound like a lib, making fun of the right on issues that they want to give 0bama a pass on.

    The NDAA *National Defense Authorization Act* provision that gives 0bama the right to call a person or group of Americans terrorist, gives 0bama the right to detain them indefinitely without trial. Sandy Hook was what 0bama was hoping for so he could push this issue and see how much power he can exercise when the 2nd amendment was being pushed by groups and individuals.

    Why put 2 and 2 together when you can write a fake note from your attorneys saying this is not a real quote.

    “Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? ”
    Galatians 4:16

  20. Obama and Biden just sold more guns and ammunition than any other administration in our nations history. These are the only jobs they have created or saved. NRA memberships are through the roof as well. Folks are riled up big time.

    “The Gun Is Civilization” by Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception.

    Reason or force, that’s it.

    In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

    When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.

    The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunken guys with baseball bats.

    The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

    There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we’d be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger’s potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat–it has no validity when most of a mugger’s potential marks are armed.

    People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that’s the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

    Then there’s the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.

    People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don’t constitute lethal force, watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.

    The gun is the only weapon that’s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn’t work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn’t both lethal and easily employable.

    When I carry a gun, I don’t do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I’m looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don’t carry it because I’m afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn’t limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation … and that’s why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

    By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret.)

  21. i’ve gotta throw the BS flag on this… Ear Leader would announce confiscation if he thought he could get away with it.

    of course, who he would get to do the actual confiscation is a question i doubt he could answer. the military isn’t going to do it, and i doubt you would find that many willing LEO’s, either, except maybe in the bluer states with stupid gun laws already.

    but no one every said Barry was smart, so there is no telling what he will get the idea to try. he backed off today, but he’s always been one for doubling down on stupid, so we shall see what he does next.

  22. All Obama’s silly gun control push will do is GUARANTEE that right wingnuts of the GOP will take control of the Senate in 2014 and probably the White House in 2016. As a gun toting moderate I wish Obama would shut the hell up because am not exactly looking forward to President Palin, but if the Dems keep pushing gun control that is EXACTLY what is going to happen.

    Harry Reid knows what happened to the Democrats after the previous assault weapons ban was passed in 1994 which is why he is not playing along with Obama. Harry Reid also owes Wayne LaPierre and the NRA a HUGE favor because when he was about to lose his seat the NRA endorsed him and largely because of that he managed to squeak by and pull victory from the jaws of defeat. He is just going to sit back and let all of this gun grabbing stuff die in committee without ever bringing it to a vote.

    The Speaker of the House has already said he is not going to do anything until the Senate passes a bill and Harry Reid is going to make sure that doesn’t happen. He knows the gun grabbers in his own party won’t be able to blame him for failing to do anything about guns because he has already told them “there is no way we could get gun control legislation passed in the House.”

  23. He WILL take their guns away, the existing ones won’t last forever – oh and he will cripple the gun ‘business’, thankfully. Time is running out.

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