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Obama to Ignore Order to Appear in Atlanta Court

President Obama will ignore an order by an Atlanta judge to appear in court Thursday for a hearing in a case challenging his qualifications under the Constitution to be president.

According to the White House, Obama will continue with his current trip out West, starting the day in Las Vegas and then continuing on to Buckley Air Force Base in Aurora, Colorado before heading to Detroit where he will spend the night.

The Associated Press reported last week that the judge had denied a motion to quash a subpoena for the president to show up for the hearing, which is scheduled for 9 am ET. Obama may still be sleeping – it will only be 6 am in Las Vegas.

The case centers on whether Obama, whose father was Kenyan, qualifies as a “natural born citizen,” as required of a president under the Constitution. Some contend that “natural born citizen” means both of a presidential candidate’s parents must be U.S. citizens.

The Atlanta lawsuit would deny Obama the right to participate in the March 6 Georgia Democratic primary, though backers of the suit clearly hope to establish a precedent that would help make a national issue over whether Obama can serve as president.

A letter apparently sent by Obama attorney Michael Jablonski Wednesday to Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp asks Kemp to “bring an end to this baseless, costly and unproductive hearing by withdrawing the original hearing request as improvidently issued.”

Jablonski states that while waiting for Kemp to do as requested, “we will, of course, suspend further participation in these proceedings, including the hearing scheduled for January 26.”

A letter that appears to be from Kemp to Jablonski rejects the demand and holds out the threat of punitive action should Obama and his attorneys withdraw from the proceedings.

“To the extent a request to withdraw the case referral is procedurally available, I do not believe such a request would be judicious given the hearing is set for tomorrow morning,” the Kemp letter states. “Anything you and your client place in the record in response to the challenge will be beneficial to my review of the initial decision; however, if you and your client choose to suspend your participation in the OSAH proceedings, please understand that you do so at your own peril.”

I possess copies of both the Jablonski and Kemp letters, and I have little doubt that both are genuine, but I have not as of late this evening been able to contact officials to absolutely confirm their authenticity.

UPDATE: Obama and his attorneys skipped the hearing. Also, the Jablonski and Kemp letters are genuine.

829 thoughts on “Obama to Ignore Order to Appear in Atlanta Court”

  1. I hope the judge issues a WARRANT. Not that it will stick but it will make excellent campaign fodder for the summer..All Newt needs is the line “You better vote for me, there is no guarantee he can stay out of jail for the next 4 years.” Classic

    1. Why shouldn’t it stick?
      If it were issued against ANY of US… and WE tried this… we’d be in cuffs within HOURS! we is HE any different? Just because you’re a politician, does NOT place you above the law…

        1. Why is racism always the charge when someone questions anything in regards to Obama or anything he does? It is a weak-minded attempt by ignorant and ill-informed individuals to rally behind an inexperienced and unqualified president only because he is black.

          1. I suggest that you google the name Barry Soetoro. This is his REAL name that appears on his REAL birth ceriificate In the country named Kenya. I know for an absolute fact that he was born in Kenya.

          2. Actually, his last name was only changed to Soetoro after being adopted by his Indonesian step-father. So that name would not appear on any birth certificate.

          3. Actually, it would. I was adopted at age 9 by my step father. My birth name does not show on my birth certificate, it shows my step father as my birth father as if he really was, and I can NO LONGER even GET my original birth certificate w/ my birth name (I do have a copy already). That’s what happened w/ Obama. His first BC would show Obama, his TRUE BC however, should show Soetoro. He released the wrong fake. He’s a fake and a fraud and I really pray the Judge sees it, esp since Obama didn’t appear. Guess he was too busy campaigning and had HAS to get to the golf course later….

          4. It is true. When we adopted our son at the age of 4, his last name was changed on his birth certificate to show our last name, not that of his birth mother.

          5. You are absolutely correct….we adopted two boys and their birth certificates have our names, not the names of their original father or mother for that matter. We have copies of the original bc’s however, the originals are null and void with the issuance of the new birth certificates. Not sure if Barry’s adoption by his Indonesian Muslim father was formal with similar paperwork or not.

          6. I am the REAL S.L.Craig ad I do not care where the ‘0’ was born because he can not be an eligible POTUS in the 1st instant because his daddy of record, the Big ‘0’, was not a U.S. citizen at the time of the little ‘0’s birth….Minor v + the facts = a Constitutional checkmate……..

            ….REMOVAL is a separate “Operation of Law” from the “Impeachment Process”……..

            ……REMOVAL is the proper procedure to remedy and rectify the act of Usurpation……….

          7. I hate Obama as much as the next guy and also think he was born in Kenya but what you just posted makes no sense Steven. He was born Barack Hussain Obama after his fathers Kenyan name.

            Obama’s last name didnt change to Soetoro until he went to Indonesia and his mother married some Indonesian guy whose sir name was Soetero. How could his Kenyan birth certificate possible have an Indonesian name from 5 years in his future?

            Help me reconcile these inconvenient facts please?

            Huuf Arted

          8. When you are ADOPTED, as I AM, your birth records are CHANGED. My Birth Cert has my ADOPTED PARENTS listed as my PARENTS. PERIOD. I was born in the 60’s. Same as Obama. My race however was NEGRO, not “AFRICAN’ which is what Obama’s PC do-over BC says. That’s how you know it’s fake. Just MAGNIFY it! You don’t have to open it in Illustrator or Photo Shop, just download it and MAGNIFY IT and LOOK AT THE SERIAL NUMBER 109641 and look at the ONE, it OBVIOUSLY comes from another DOCUMENT!

          9. With all due respect, wouldn’t whether or not birth certificates are changed upon adoption depend on the laws of the country in which they originate?

            I admit that I don’t know your full story, but it sounds like your experiences are wholly within the realm of the American legal system.

            As for the birth certificate that BHO has “released”, I remember reading not long ago that a gentleman claimed it was faked and as proof offered up the fact that the copy he created himself was the copy that was produced by the White House. I’d be interested to see how this case turns out.

          10. What the heck is the matter with yall? Don’t you know Barry is above the laws of our country. Only honest people and working stiffs obey the laws.

          11. Then who is Harrison J. Bounel?

            I thought Harrison J. Bounel was his real name since that is the name on the social security number he uses.

          12. AZH was being facetious, making the point that this man is untouchable and if anyone questions that they must obviously be racist. I am black and I am APPALLED at the things this man has done. I have observed the “evidence” that this administration has put out regarding his birth certifficate and I have seen better fraudulent documents done by high school students. It is as if they have so litle regard for our intelligence level that they feel they can just do ANYTHING and we will just go for it. I despised Bush and I despise Obama as well because they BOTH work for the same power structure that is DETERMINED to destroy this country…THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE!!!

          13. Absolutely right Citizencyx, BOTH work for the same power structure and so do Romney AND Gingrich. There is only one who isn’t answering to the international bankers, and while Ron Paul isn’t perfect, at least he isn’t aiming for Dictator like the others.

          14. don’t believe it. Iran Paul’s aw-shucks act is just that: an act. he’s as corruptible as any other politician…and a whole lot kookier than most of them!

          15. He knows he can’t win without a huge black vote. Invoking racism is an attempt to anger the black voter so (s)he will come out in record numbers to defeat the “racist Republicans”

          1. Yeas, this MOOZLUM needs to be sent back like elian gonzalez. I love everyone, but I detest MUSLIMS, here is a pic of the Profit Moohamed…… :( oh no I might get murdered now by the tallyban! LOL AMERicA F*ck YEA!!

          2. Sad comparison. Elian Gonzalez was an innocent little boy whose mother lost her life trying to bring him to freedom. Janet reno and the clinton administration allowed him to be thrown back to the sharks and used for communist propaganda. 0 is a zero.

        2. WHAT RACISTS ! Obama is white and black. If the whites did not vote for him. He would not of been president ! Remember his mother is white ! WHAT DOES THAT MAKE OBAMA ? A RACIST !

          1. “The Emperor is naked!”
            Let the children chose our president. They are the ones who will be paying the tab and they are not as blind to the BS.

    2. That’s OK, Congress is still waiting for Cheney to show up for the subpoenas he ignored on a much more realistic issue than this one for Obama..

      waiting… waiting… waiting…

      1. seriously? Cheney? you libs really hang on to things, don’t you?

        here’s a clue for you: it’s 2012. the Bush administration hasn’t been in power for years. and we have a whole new set of problems with the bunch that’s in there now that need our attention. so if you can get your mind into the 21st century and not obsess about ancient history, that would be helpful.

        btw: while Obama is happy to talk about “inheriting” a bad economy from Bush, he doesn’t ever seem to mention “inheriting” the intel that allowed Obama to take credit for bin Laden’s death. why is that?

      2. Cheney wasn’t the President of the United States. It is so typical for a liberal to justify Obama’s wrongdoings because of a republican’s wrongdoings. Why can’t you people see that by doing this it then dismisses the original issue? So when a Republican president behaves this way in the future, WE DON’t WANT TO HEAR IT. The reality is that Conservatives hold Republicans accountable just as they would Democrats; whereas Liberals defend Democrats regardless of how reprhensible or vile their actions are. You guys need to practice what you preach instead of being yellow-bellies who are being used for your ignorance.

    3. Some people believe that both parents have to be a U.S. citizen for someone to be a natural born citizen. I would suggest some heavy reading of a high school government textbook. You’ll find the answer is no.

      In other news, if you make $250K a year and vote Republican, you might be a redneck.

        1. Minor vs Happersett has nothing to do with natural born citizens, it only held that the constitution did not grant citizens a right to vote. The only mention of the debate as to whether or not natural-born citizens must have both parents be citizens or if it doesn’t matter as long as they are born on American soil, or territories. It does not deal with that debate as it was not at issue in this case. I hope you are not a lawyer as your ability to read decision is lacking intelligence.

          1. You know what else was not at issue in a case, supposedly? Judicial Activism. You see, placed in ditka or in passing- or even in the majority opinion summary by a clumsy clerk- ginaallows for it to become a law or tradition. Even if the oril ruling wasn’t sound and based in the Constitution, if the original ruling was believed to be a certain way and a subsequent ruling was based on the belief in this certain way of the original ruling, it becomes indoctrinated into law. A great example is the Marbury v. Madison case where the SCOTUS stated they couldn’t rule on it, but defined judicial activism in the ruling- that allowed them to rule on similar cases in the future, because their ditka stated they could. Nobody questions whether the rulings are based on the “three paragraphs that actually deal with the case”; the entire majority opinion can be used for case precedent in future proceedings. As a matter of fact, the fact that Corporations became equal (or more equal in some cases) is credited to an error by a law clerk that was then used for future opinions.

            Now, in Happersett, the SCOTUS indeed defines what makes a natural-born citizen; as a matter of fact, they go so far as to explain where the term “natural-born citizen” came from and why it is in our Constitution being worded as such. What I have to say to you is, SCOTUS rarely dismisses previously rulings made by itself. They would then state that “although it didn’t have anything to do with the case, apparently, being argued in front of them, it would be difficult for us to state that natural-born citizen was never defined by the courts.”

          2. I tried to take this seriously, but each time you said “ditka” I burst out laughing at the idea.

            Ditka = a famous football coach.

            Dicta = any statement by a court that extends beyond the issue before the court.

      1. It’s the people out of work because of GOP/TP policies who are STILL Republicans that worry me. What’s it gonna take for those people to wake up and realize they’re getting clobbered by the people that purport to support them? Seriously, do you think millionaires like Romney and Gingrich have a clue about the middle class?

        1. Er more are out of work because of the actions of people like Pelosi, Reid, Frank and Dodd – Democrats all.

          and do you think millionaires like Obama, Pelosi, Kerry, Kaiser, Immelt, etc. And Billionaires like Soros, Buffett, the Google crowd, etc. “have a clue about the middle class?”

          A recent MotherJones report showed that EIGHT OUT OF TEN of the RICHEST in Congress are Democrats. The DMC gets huge donations from Wall St. Financiers, Goldman Sachs, etc. The old label that the Republicans are “the Party of the Rich is no longer valid, quite the OPPOSITE is true.

        2. Yes I do. And if you think Obam is some great man of the people look at the mansion he bought (thru a questionable deal) the vacations he takes (in US taxpayer owned jets) and his tight-butt charitable donations and his party buddies Johnny Depp, Tim Burton and Warren (idiot savant) Buffet.

          1. And another thing, all the dem supporters should look at the charitable giving vs lifestyle spending of John Kerry, Kennedy family and others. They are fooling YOU into thinking they care.
            They laugh at hard-working Americans.

        3. America is a society without class distinction. One reason that we broke away from England and George III was to get away from aristocracy, nobles and the British system of social classes. We may as individuals earn different wage amounts but the foundation of our country was based on all people being equal. To believe that America has a class structure is to advance a socialist concept that is intended to divide us and conquer us.

      2. I highly recommend you read the PDF at this link before making that assumption. It is a highly detailed explanation of why both parents must be US citizens at the birth of the child for the child to be eligible for the office of President. The PDF is 200+ pages long, but only the first 50 or so are the meat of the document…the rest are supporting documentations.

      3. Stu, you should probably sue the government for not providing you a proper education. Reading comprehension is important.

        There is nothing special about BHO. He is currently the last on a list of other candidates that have had their eligibility status questioned. It would be nice, perhaps even beneficial, to get an ‘official’ ruling, so this insanity can stop.

        To define a term is to indicate the category or class of things which it signifies. The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

        I don’t doubt BHO was born in HI. But, that does not answer the question of ‘natural born’ status, since BHO admits his father was a Kenyan under British rule, at the time of BHO’s birth. Nor does BHO’s use of a SSN issued in CT, give any real indication of ‘natural born’ status. Asking questions surrounding these issues is reasonable…and expecting a truthful answer is equally reasonable.

        The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814):

        …“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

        Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830):

        Ann Scott was born in South Carolina before the American revolution, and her father adhered to the American cause and remained and was at his death a citizen of South Carolina. There is no dispute that his daughter Ann, at the time of the Revolution and afterwards, remained in South Carolina until December, 1782. Whether she was of age during this time does not appear. If she was, then her birth and residence might be deemed to constitute her by election a citizen of South Carolina. If she was not of age, then she might well be deemed under the circumstances of this case to hold the citizenship of her father, for children born in a country, continuing while under age in the family of the father, partake of his national character as a citizen of that country. Her citizenship, then, being prima facie established, and indeed this is admitted in the pleadings, has it ever been lost, or was it lost before the death of her father, so that the estate in question was, upon the descent cast, incapable of vesting in her? Upon the facts stated, it appears to us that it was not lost and that she was capable of taking it at the time of the descent cast.

        Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)

        …”The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.”…

        United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898):

        …”At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

        Chester A. Arthur
        Christopher Schürmann
        Charles Evans Hughes (probably the most in common with BHO and worth a read:
        Barry Goldwater
        George Romney (sound familiar)
        Lowell Weicker
        Róger Calero
        John McCain

      4. I suggest you pull your head out and check it out yourself and you will see that BOTH mother and father must be US citizens in order for one to be a natural born citizen.

  2. My degree is in Social Sciences. I lack 4 credits from a full history major.

    Anyway, I remember discussing the reasoning behind “natural born”. I was told by my history prof (one of the best in the NW) that the founders wanted to make sure that Presidents would never have divided allegiances . . . therefore, the requirement of both parents to be US citizens. I know there has been litigated when a candidate was not born on US soil and there is now a precedence for that. However, this probably is the first time “natural born” based on the citizenship of parents is based.

    Doesn’t sound like this judge is going to play any games. Now, we will see if a suit against a sitting President is allowed.

    1. ”Original” there you have it…the Founders wanted to ensure that Presidents would not have a divided allegiance…plain and simple. Now you’d think that someone who touts himself as a Constitutional expert would have been well aware that he was not eligible for POTUS. However, this shows conspiracy and collusion on a massive scale in the highest levels of Govt, political parties (BOTH) and the msm. I do not beleive that this is the first time this question has arisen in and decided in favor of the Constitutions intent that to be eligible ones parents must BOTH be American Citizens at the time of ones birth.
      The ”usurper” in the White House is a fraud and should be impeached. But, don’t hold your breath…

      1. Please, hold your breath. I want to see you turn blue and die. Did any of you clowns advance this argument against John McCain, who was born in Panama?

        1. John McCain was born on the US soil of a US Military base in Panama by two US Citizen parents.. he is a natural born citizen of the United States.

    2. Chester Arthur was the 21st president. His father was Irish but moved to Canada where he met Arthur’s mother. Their first child, a daughter, was born there. Arthur claimed to be born 12 miles away in Vermont.

      1. Arthur was born in Vermont to a Vermont-born mother and a father from Ireland, who was naturalized as a U.S. citizen in 1843. So When Chester A. Arthur became president, both his parents were US Citizens.

        1. Actually, it only mattered if his father was a citizen at the time of Arthur’s birth, not when he became president.

          Chester Arthur was not eligible for the office of President. It only came out after he was already out of office, so there was no need to remove him.

  3. These last 3 yrs have been like a bad B movie. At the theatre.
    Lefty “message”, poorly directed, and feeling you got is a ripped off.

    But worse … it’s all real. Whoa.

    Need more popcorn.

    1. hey, I like B movies. Some of my best memories of youth were at drive in movie theaters seeing such classics as Dirty Mary Crazy Larry or Buster and Billy. And who can forget all those great Billy Jack flicks. That’s what we need, is Billy Jack to go to DC and kick some major, or wait, they did that movie.

      Please be careful what you compare this president against.

      1. Amen. You hit the nail on the head right there. I hope Boehner’s getting challenged in the primaries in his state. It’d be nice to have him gone.

      2. Absolutely!
        Boner needs to be removed. Any man that crys as much as he does needs to have his balls checked and weighed. There’s something way wrong there.

        1. Now that Michelle Bachmann is no longer running for POTUS, she should become Speaker.

          My dream would be for Sarah Palin to run for Congress, and get appointed as Speaker.

          It’s not that I like Palin that much although I do think that she’d make a good Speaker of the House, but seeing Nancy Pelosi’s face melt if that happened would make up for a lot of the pain and suffering that We The People have been put through these past few years.

          1. You mean her face hasn’t already melted???????? Sure as heck looks like it to me.She reminds me of the witch in “The Wizard of Oz” as she melted down to nothing. It would be nice if the same thing happened to Pelosi….SOMEBODY throw some water on her, maybe it will work.

          2. You mean the same Michelle Bachmann that voted for the NDAA that Obama signed into law? No thanks! She voted for legislation that violates the Constitution and tramples on our liberty and this is who you are pining for as Speaker of the House? Please do all Americans a favor and do not vote.You are supporting people who are trying to take away your rights and liberty and you don’t even know it!

  4. I think if he dont go tomorrow he should be thrown in jail its only fair he isnt any better than the rest of us if were some random person and they didnt show up they would go to jail so why not him!

        1. It helped him…NOW, he is King of the World…he is one of the most popular men in the world…Bill really got the last laugh…keep hating…we, liberals LOVE the results…hate will always keep you from gaining those things you really want

        2. So if any other attorney perjured himself and intentionally tried to obstruct justice do you think they would just have their license suspended? Martha Stewart went to prison for lying to investigators during questioning. She wasn’t even under oath. As a potential jury member Bill Clinton did demonstrated to me that there are no consequences for perjury and everyone should be able to walk for it.

    1. I think Obama….”Mr. Constitutional Law” professor (allegedly) should be an upstanding example of what the citizens of this country are expected to do when subpenaed to court. Oh that’s right…he’s never been able to prove his schooling and may not be a citizen so none of this counts!!

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    1. But even the oath he took is in question. He supposedly took it over the next day but I didn’t hear him take it. I wonder if that ws documented.

      1. Not every American heard him or any other president take their oath.

        There is no requirement that EVERY American hear the president take the oath. How do you think it worked before there was television or radio?

        What makes you think you are so special?

      1. But he’s the anointed ONE – he’s had doors opened, rules bent, opportunities facilitated all his life to soothe the racist conscience of the wealthy elite, so why should mere laws of the land apply to him?

        1. yes to obam all this ‘oath’ stuff and the Constitution is just old white guy nonsense. he’s going progress America to the left’s idea of what the country should be…all while we watch Europe implode from their ideas.

  6. Does anyone now doubt that Obama believes himself to be above the laws of this land?
    Let’s see what he is made of. He needs to suffer the same consequences any average citizen would suffer if he or she ignored or refused the appearance order.
    This man is so bent on being a dictator that reason seems to have left him. He demonstrates that he has very little understanding of Americans and even less respect for us or our laws.
    One and done!

  7. Come on, Obama has ignored the laws of this nation that he does not like,most of them, and he has been able to get away with it. It has been shown that he and the members of his party are above the law and answer to know one but the people who own them like the unions and Soros.

      1. obama believes he himself is the highest authority, so if he is indeed a Christian, it is for appearances only. he is a fraud backed by the billionaires he publicly despises, but privately embraces. enjoy the last year of your campaigner in chief

        1. I was refering to the above question as to who the father of Rosemary’s baby was…if, as a Christian you doubt our president’s word on what he believes, you have proved what many in the North know…you are simply bigots…can’t see past his skin color…that is truly sad…but, expected from The South

          1. Nope, it just means that we heard that garbage being preached from Rev Wright’s so called church, and we know that’s not Christian Doctrine.

          2. Right…..when you, Obama, Sharpton, and Jackson think you are above the law and the American people say no…..then always pull out the race card. Way to many times. We do see past the skin color… don’t and always use it as an excuse. Not this time though…..we know the truth.

          3. Actually, Obama claimed to be a Christian and in the next sentence said he believed there were many ways to heaven. That is like saying I am a vegitarian and I like to eat meat, because Christ claimed to be the only way to heaven. So you cannot believe he is the Christ and at the same time think he is not. Its complete political BS, he was trying to speak out of both sides of his mouth.

          4. Yes and no Christian could align themselves w the teachings of Saul Alinsky (sorry if misspelled) who taught lie cheat steal to obtain goals. Obam is no brother in Christ and it is another lie he’s told.

  8. Please get with the routine Legal Scholars:

    Article 1, section 1, of the Revamped Constitution of the United States of America reads thus:

    Any sitting Marxist Presiden is completely free of the burden of any law herewith and of any law drawn and made by congress, or any other body.



    pesky little judges with laws! damn!

    1. Yeah and then there’s that other revision. This one to the Declaration of Independence: ‘All men are created equal…except some are more equal than others’….

      1. To push the Animal Farm thing further couldn’t we say:

        “All men are created equal but some are actually corrupt pigs and as such are more equal than others”

  9. Another piece of proof, as if most of us needed more proof of just how hateful The South still remains…sooooo bitter…you LOST…get over it…try to be Americans or try seceding again…personally, I would back you…I know a lot of others who would to…you will be soooo upset in November when an ‘illegal alien’ is re-elected…thanks Newt


      you have a great sense of humour.

      maybe you need a job with Obama, he likes people who make up fantasy tales

      1. portia
        a mind is a terrible thing to waste. i was born in the northeast, but would never live in that stinkhole of liberal propaganda ever again. you all drink from the well of leftist elitist media 24’7, so we’re not interested in trying to change your point of view, we are looking to defeat you on the election battlefield. have a nice life and don’t forget to double up on your anti-depressants after the national election.

        1. The “Yankee Culture” that won the Civil War was completely different from the Cultural Marxist/crypt-Fascist ideology currently in vogue in the Northeast. Both the Civil War era North and South would band together to fight against your ideology as something they would easily recognize as foreign, alien, evil, and ultimately steeped in wickedness and depravity. As a practical matter, Northeasterners have forgotten basic marksmanship and gun culture while the South and West have not. If I were in your position, I would be very circumspect before asking for a rematch.

    2. Hey, Portia-Chevy:
      Rule #1: NEVER argue with a sick, twisted mind. First they drag you down to THEIR (YOUR) level, then they beat you with experience;
      Rule #2: When encountering a Lib-Tard, see Rule #1.

      Liberalism/Progressivism/Lib-tard/Dummy-crat really IS a mental disease!

      Those with eyes that do not see, and those with ears that do not hear.

      1. It is just SOOOO easy to stir up The Southern’s hatred…they become soooo obsessed with getting this president out, that they can’t see straight…the rest of the country just sits back and laughs at you all…yet, you still think you can win…and, name-calling is EXACLTY what I expect from M o R o ns…thanks for proving me RIGHT

        1. Despite empty charges of hatred, what Portia is demonstrating is the twin liberal defects of mind: Mental Incompetence and Criminal Insanity. Since liberals consider political considerations (i.e. political correctness) to trump all other causality, the law books would define that inability to rightly relate cause and effect as “mental incompetence”. Since liberals also recognize no other standard of right and wrong other than their currently held opinions, they cannot distinguish between good and evil, or vice and virtue. That is the textbook definition of criminal insanity. This is probably why people like Porta-pottie here, when empowered and in large numbers, usualy create a society that devolves into genocidal murder. They are an evil and blood thirsty brood. Trust them with nothing.

          1. You do know you went right over her head, don’t you?
            Her brains rattle around inside her head like a BB in a boxcar.
            She only uses her head to hold her ears apart.
            She only uses her head as a hat rack.
            When she enters a room, the collective IQ drops by 100 points.
            Her butts so big, her butt cheeks have different zip codes.
            I could go on, but what’s the use……

          2. portia, the koala tea of mersey is unstrained.
            when you say “soooooo” so many times, you reveal yourself as a child – probably of mind only
            btw, I’m racist against the white part of the president.
            behold the soft yankee racism of calling him black due to his “miscegenation”

        2. QUOTE:
          “name-calling is EXACLTY what I expect from M o R o ns…thanks for proving me RIGHT”

          Thanks for outing yourself.
          As usual, a Lib-Tard can’t see that they are also “name-calling”.
          Actually, that’s ALL you are capable of doing. Facts and logic just escape you, don’t they? You aren’t right, just demented. OH! I used a big word!
          Quick! Someone clue this idiot in!

          1. I don’t know what’s worse, the fact that you and your ilk use words like “Lib-Tard” or that you think “demented” is a big word.

            Actually, I do know what’s worse. The massive circle-jerk of completely unfounded, conspiracy theorist birther/citizenship crap that gets spewed into comment forums whenever Obama is mentioned. You realize he’s not the first president to have a foreign-citizen parent? There is a reason that no intelligent, widely respected Republican or Conservative (note they aren’t necessarily the same thing) spouts this BS.. because it’s the work of morons. That isn’t just name calling. That is just a factual assessment.

          2. Is it really so hard to find this out for yourself?

            Thomas Jefferson (British mother)
            Andrew Jackson (Both parents were Irish)
            James Buchanan (Irish father)
            Chester A. Arthur (Irish father)
            Woodrow Wilson (British mother)
            Herbert Hoover (Canadian mother)
            Barrack Obama (Kenyan father)

          3. Jefferson and Jackson were “grandfathered in” under Article 2 of the Constitution.

            Buchanan’s father was born in Ireland but it is not clear if/when he became a US citizen – the rules were a lot more lax in those days. So he may or may not have been eligible.

            Arthur would be ineligible but that was only discovered after his term so the issue was deemed moot EXCEPT that it does support the contention that Obama is not eligible because of his father’s nationality.

            Wilson’s mother would have become a US citizen automatically on marriage to his father as was the ruling at the time so he was eligible.

            Hoover – same as above. The automatic citizenship through marriage was in effect until 1922. So he too was eligible.

            That leaves Obama who seems to fall into the same category as Chester Arthur and as such would seem to be ineligible.

          4. You are ignoring, probably intentionally, two important FACTS;

            1] The Founding Generation was exempted from the natural born requirement by the “Grandfather Clause”, ….”…or a Citizen at the adoption of the Constitution…”

            2] The foreign birth of a parent is NO bar as long as they NATURALIZED prior to the childs birth.

            Use a little logic, reason and intellectual honesty and quit reading talking points…………………

        3. Portia…wake up. I live in the south and most of my neighbors are from the Northern states. There are a few of us natives left, but I would guess we are now a minority. Most of them wouldn’t move back north for anything. My northern friends are worried that the southern lifestyle and culture are disappearing. You give all indications that you have only been exposed to own little section of the country, and are unqualified to pass judgement on other parts. I regularly visit places all over the USA, and have lived in the north, south, northeast, midwest,southwest and currently the southeast. Trust me, the southeast has more to offer than any other part. BTW, I was born in the northeast.

    3. With a name like portia, it doesn’t surprise me that there is absolutely nothing of intelligence going on behind those glazed over eyeballs of yours.

      1. Another rocket scientist, I see…the name is from a Shakespeare play, but don’t let me stop you from your ignorant ways…thanks for re-inforcing my belief in The South’s brain-deadness…hahahahahaha…thanks guys

          1. Inforcing their beliefs via publec iducation.

            Heard Obama’s SOTU speech was classified as
            8th grade reading level. That will pose a major
            Challenge to way too many recent High School
            “Graduates”, don’t you think?

          1. That made as much sense as everything else you’ve posted so far.
            See my comment regarding being a fool.
            With that said, I’m finished entertaining this idiot troll…..

        1. portia-go back down into mommy and daddys cellar and leave the grownups alone. children should be seen and not heard but I guess your mommy and daddy didn’t have the time to teach you manners.

        2. The character from the Merchant of Venice? By your personality I thought you were named for the araneophagic spider.
          By the way, I am not a rocket scientist, I am an archaeologist, and a Southerner.

    4. Another elite minded lib spewing insults when you do not know what you are talking!
      Portia if you are so wise then, why has Atlanta had a black mayor for 37 plus continuous years? Not, like all the big lib east and west coast cities that have had a token black mayor for 1 term.
      This drone view is what you get when your primary news source is Huf Po, MSNBC, and Comedy Central.

      1. All one has to do is drive through and around Atlanta to KNOW why they have a black mayor…NUMBERS…you can PRETEND you are not racists, but your actions speak louder than words

        1. I don’t believe you even know the meaning of the word.
          MLK would be Sooooooo proud of your example.
          Black people are FAR more racist than white people.
          You really should see a Dr. about having that big ol’ chip surgically removed from your shoulder.
          Then kindly STICK IT UP YOUR ARSE!!!

        2. All one has to do is drive through and around Atlanta to KNOW why it’s a festering hole of crime and squalor. The same reason Detroit is… and Memphis is… and Birmingham is, and NYC above 125th Street is.

        3. When you argue with a fool, sometimes it is hard to tell the difference. Stop arguing with the fool. Portia, you are definitely very an immature fool, and as all liberals show themselves to be.
          They are all over the place with their immature views on every subject and as we can see from the person in the white house and his czars for the last three years, we have had children running our country who have no mature ideas.
          What do children do when they are caught in their lies? They lie, run away from being caught, if they can, they avoid punishment.
          Obama is running away from his punishment from the America people by thinking he can avoid an a court order to appear.
          Come the next election we will see how far he can run. Americans conservatives and those from the south are not to be taken lightly.

    5. portia…you’re a moron. As a yankee by birth and well versed in the Civil War I have no doubt that if we could bring back to life those who sacrificed so much in the C.W. to see the present day state of govt.- they’d march shoulder to shoulder on Washington.
      Yankee ”culture” won nothing, the South lives and breathes as it always did. The only difference is that the racist arm of the democrapic party,the KKK no longer holds sway.

  10. Yes, the letters are real and so is the fact that the hearing will be live streamed from the Atlanta courthouse today, Jan. 26th from 9:00 AM ET until they are over.

    There are three different cases. Of course the main stream media, which includes Fox News, is ignoring what is the potentially the biggest political news in history, the beginning of the completely unraveling of, “Who is Barry Soetoro?”.

    Go here for live streaming video already in progress:

    1. Or, the complete undoing of a once-proud state…welcome to the world of being the center of the butt of jokes…darn, where is General Sherman when you need him?

      1. You really ARE a douche-bag, aren’t you??
        Typical Lib-Tard. Can’t have an open, honest debate on the facts. All you are good for is running around shouting “Liar, liar, pants on fire”.
        Well, we see right through YOUR “savior”. Enjoy it while you can! IF Barry gets another 4 more years, the SWHTF, and YOU are going to be in the same $hit-hole with the rest of us. The difference will be YOU and your ilk will be among the FIRST to perish!
        Me? I have food water, brass and lead stored up.
        Party-on, dude…..

        1. ME too, bring it on…you lost the first time and you will lose again…BUT, as to President Obama being my savior…NO way…I am terribly disappointed and I might vote for Romney, if given the chance…and, I am more than willing to have a civil and respectful debate…I haven’t read anything on here that qualifies…just hatefilled rhetoric…just sayin’…and, that kind of hate ALWAYS loses…your loss…your side as a GREAT opportunity to win in November, but your side puts shooting itself in the foot…that isn’t my fault…take responsibility for your own

          1. Actions speak louder than words, sweet-cheeks!
            So far, you haven’t had a single, intelligent thing to say.
            It’s all been race-baiting, name-calling, belligerent, and generally infantile. WHERE do you get the balls? Talking out both sides of your mouth is impressive. Dumb, but impressive.
            Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, pot.

  11. If Obama refuses to show up for Court a Warrant for his Arrest should be issued at once.
    It’s the Law and the Law we all live by.
    NO one is above the Law.

    If your supenad you show up, Period.

    I will be contacting the White House to request the President follow the Law or turn himself in.

  12. Att. On record went to Honolulu with a subpoena for a hard copy of Obama’s birth certificate.

    She was fought in court and lost.

    What does this tell you about the authenticity of that 19 layer computer created BC?!?!?!

    If it was real, why did they deny her access to such an innocuous document when she had a subpoena for it?

    NO HARD COPY EVER EXISTED… Before the internet release from the WH, the HI GovM took one month and said he couldn’t find it.

    You be the judge.

  13. Well, it’s time to escalate the case against Hussein! Wouldn’t it be great if Obama’s name is not allowed to appear on the ballot in Georgia?!?! This is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don’t you know he will be crying and wanting to sue Georgia once the ballots start to be printed and his name isn’t on them. The cry will be…of course….raaaaaaccisssssssm.

      1. Kiss my posterior. I’m from the South and I find more bigots up north than down here so take your stereotypical comment and put it where the sun doesn’t shine.

      2. southern racists don’t even know they’re racist so why bother trying to explain it to them. Let the south disintegrate such as the GOP party is doing to itself.

        1. FACT: If it weren’t for the Southern GOP, you black people would STILL be second-class citizens, not that you don’t keep trying to get back there. (example: RAP music, demeaning the family and women).
          FACT: The Yankee Dummy-crats fought tough-and-nail to keep yer a$$e$$ on the Dummy-crat plantation for as long as they could.
          FACT: LBJ said once he passed his social programs, he’d keep the knee-grows (he actually used the other word) voting Dummy-crat for 100 years. Appears he was right about that!!
          Buy a clue!!!

      3. “…most people in the South are hatefilled bigots…”

        That, in itself, is one of the most bigoted statements I have ever read. Thanks for outing yourself, bigot.

    1. Hopefully other states will pickup on the matter and eliminate his name from their ballots as well.

      Time for the Dictator to be overthrown by the courts.

  14. Typical Barry S. move. Ignore the law and the constitution. He should be tried, convicted and charged with every felonious charge that could be brought against him by the constitution of the United States of America. If this were 150 years ago, not only would he be in court he would be impeached and he would be praying to his “god” that he won’t spend the rest of his life in prison. (Which is where he should be for all that he has done to destroy this country)

    1. Amen to that Jimmy. He’s an absolute embarrassment and appears hell-bent on sabotaging this nation from within. He’s deliberately steering the ship into the iceberg. He despises this nation and his every move and decision shows this is quite obvious.

    2. He would probably be in stocks or pillories in the town square where not so fresh fruits and vegetable could adorn him. Maybe some of the bodily wastes as well. Much the same as the excrement on police cars by the ‘community organizers’ at various encampments around the country.

  15. you are all debt-enslaved robots living in a police state while being forced to pay taxes for bankrupt-ponzi schemes……you get what you deserve for being so damn stupid.

    “in 2014, we begin paying more in benefits than we collect in taxes.” social security admin for the last 10+years.

    It is not left vs right, it is the government vs YOU!!

    1. AND, that is how ALL politicians, from both sides of the aisle keep us down and complaining about birth certificates about a sitting president…that is ALWAYS what the power structure wants…us fighting amongst ourselves, rather than looking at the curtain and make sure we pull it back to see who is behind it…ALL THE GOVERNMENT

      1. And yet, Portia, you continue to play right into the politicians hands with all your unfounded accusations. Racism exists in every segment of society, regardless of skin color. As a hospitable Southerner, I would like to extend an invitation to you to come visit us. See for yourself… we’re no more racist than you.

      2. “All one has to do is drive through and around Atlanta to KNOW why they have a black mayor” (Portia 9:31)

        portia, reading thru your comments, it’s clear you’ve incorrectly determined that everyone BUT YOU is a bigot.

        Ad hominem insults are not an invitation to debate, they instead have a preemptive chilling effect which you use to stifle an argument you know you can’t win logically.

        Methinks you protest too much. Please deal with your fear and racism personally, and not by projecting it onto strangers in the comment bar – go ahead and visit the south – we won’t let the darker people hurt you.

  16. KEITH KOFFLER Are we talking about Obama who’s father was a subject of the British empire, or are we talking about Chester A. Arthur who’s father was a subject of the British empire? If Chester could be president, so can Obama. Same circumstances apply to both men. I don’t even know how this particular case can even be an issue. I have no idea why journalist never bring up Chester Arthur when talking about this.

    1. Chester A. Arthur was born in Fairfield, VT, therefore he IS a natural born citizen. Our current POTUS can’t prove where he was born. If born in Hawaii, why couldn’t they find his birth certificate? The fact that he hides vast amounts of information from public view should give you pause. Even you.

      1. Nah. That would require her to THINK. All Lib-Tards are good for is to FEEL.
        Hey, Portia! Do you know how it feels when you have to pee really bad?
        Well then, FEEL ME and see if I have to pee really bad!!

    2. Not the same.
      Althought Chester Alan Arthur’s fater was a british subject, his mother was an American who was old enough to transfer her citizenship to her son. At the birth of Chester Arthur, Malvina Stone Arthur was 27 (plus 5 months, 7 days including the birth date) and lived in the US for more than 5 years.

      1. At that time it was 10 years, John. Reagan changed the law to 5 in the early 1980’s. You’re just factually deficient. Your “trusted” media sources failed you again…

    3. Get your facts straight folks.

      You leave out several key components of the Chester Arthur story, conveniently it appears. Chester Arthur was elected as VP for James Garfield in 1881. Arthur was not elected President of the US, rather was sworn into office some 200 days into his tenure as VP when Charles J. Guiteau assassinated Garfield on July 2, 1881. Arthur was president thru 1885, and was never elected to the Presidents office by a US electorate. The Arthur/Obama comparison is not apples to apples in my opinion.

      1. All presidents born after 1787, except for Chester Arthur and Barack Obama, met the “natural born Citizen” criteria, i.e., born on U.S. soil to a mother and father who were themselves U.S. citizens at the time of the President’s birth. Neither Arthur nor Obama were “natural born Citizens” at the time of birth. Arthur was born to an alien father who also made his U.S. citizen mother an alien. Obama was born to a non-U.S. citizen father who never became a U.S. citizen and, being here only on a temporary student visa, was never even an immigrant. There have been 46 Americans that have served as Vice-President (not including Mr. Biden). Ten were born before 1787. All Vice-Presidents born after 1787, except for Chester Arthur, met the “natural born Citizen” criteria. Fourteen Vice Presidents have gone on to be President.

    4. Arthur was born in Vermont to a Vermont-born mother and a father from Ireland, who was naturalized as a U.S. citizen in 1843. So, Chester A. Arthur’s parents were US Citizens when he became president.

  17. Natural born citizen should be the basis of the whole argument over Obama’s qualifications. It has nothing personal to do with Obama. It was designed by the Founding Fathers for a reason and that had to do with loyalty. The Commander-in-Chief leads the military in war and a person born of parents from different nations can cause a conflict in allegiance. Obama, and anyone else for that matter, is not constitutionally qualified based on where one of the parents are from. The Congress failed in its responsibility to properly certify the candidate as eligible to run for president. This national embarrassment has as much to do with Congress dropping the ball as it does Obama wanting to run for president.

  18. I believe he should be charged with failure to appear if he simply ignored the order, or his request was insufficient.

    However, if his attorney’s request is lawful and was sufficient to legally not appear, then he is fine.

  19. The man is an alien to this country no matter what the “eligibility” is. The man has a brain that was severely damaged as a youth when he puffed on the magic dragon. He has admitted to being a youthful drug abuser, and what he doesn’t say, is that it damaged his brain severely. His maturity, because of the abuse, is stuck at about the sophomore level in high school, when immature children think communism is “cool”.

    1. You are an ignorant, racist fool! People like you make all americans….black, white, latino, asian……look bad! Ugh! Grow the hell up and stop living in the frickin past!

  20. The judge needs to issue a bench warrant for the arrest of obama. If the messiah doesn’t turn himself in, Dog the bounty hunter should be unleashed to go after him and bring him to justice.

  21. He shall hereforth be referred to as Present Obama (no ID). This also leads to questions regarding Hawaii’s fraudulent birth certificate operation. Have they been doing things similar to Puerto Rico which was found to have committed thousands of identity theft / birth certificate sales? Time for a full investigation. Send in the FBI. Keep Holder out of the loop. Start with Virginia Sunahara Born 8/4/61 died 8/5/61

  22. I find this a bit absurd since he is already 3 years intro his first term. Plus, the President is one of our three branches of Government. To my understanding, he is not beholding to do anything a judge tells him to do. This is just my opinion. I could be wrong. — Ed Hartwell, U. S. Citizen, Veteran, Voter, and an American for America.

      1. Obama doesn’t have to obey every little whim of every little backwater jerkoff Judge. In your drug-infested dream, maybe…D’oh!

        Side note: Where’s your law degree from, BubbaDump?


    1. No one is above the law. Not the freeloader in the street. Not even a fake president in the White House. Not even a REAL president in the White House.

      NO ONE.

    2. Ed – Rule #1 for making a point:

      Avoid, at all costs, admitting in same statement
      that what you are attempting to state/make a point of

      just sayin’…

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