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Sunday Open Thread || December 22, 2013

by Keith Koffler on December 21, 2013, 10:19 pm

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Mandy Manners December 21, 2013 at 11:12 pm

A trio of scruffy-faced boys from fly-over land deliver a song that grips my throat and makes my voice husky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxJm2ujrEq4

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Aileen December 22, 2013 at 3:31 am

That song always brings me a lumpy throat. Home truly is “where the heart is.” This year, I am home where my heart and soul and body reside. I am thankful…and lumpy throated with that thankfulness. God is good and His Love endures forever.

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Lee December 22, 2013 at 7:58 am

I am blessed to be home for Christmas with my family, and my 30 son will be home by Christmas.
Song brought tears to my eyes, remembering the famly members we have lost though the years. God Bless them all.
The memories of the big family gatherings as a kid with mom, dad, sisters, brothers, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins.
Wonderful memories.
Merry Christmas to all the parties posting on this thread, and
Keith Merry Christmas to you as well. Thank you for your time and news and open thread.

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Julie Brueckheimer December 22, 2013 at 11:02 am

Usually I’m not one for heart tugging stories, but my heart was indeed moved by the story of thousands of people turning up to sing Christmas carols for the little girl who is dying of leukemia. It was one of her last wishes. That’s an It’s a Wonderful Life sort of event.

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Mandy Manners December 21, 2013 at 11:14 pm

The Hap-Hap-Happiest Christmas….

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Mandy Manners December 21, 2013 at 11:15 pm
Knothead the No Nabob December 21, 2013 at 11:21 pm

I am blessed to be able to post on any given open thread Sunday. Thank you and have a blessed day.

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Owen_Kellogg December 21, 2013 at 11:42 pm

***NEWSFLASH***

Santa is going to be here in four days! I just saw it on CNN.

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Mandy Manners December 21, 2013 at 11:55 pm

My dad was one of those air-borne warriors who helped track both Soviet-radar and Santa-radar during the hottest days and nights of the Cold War.

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Mandy Manners December 21, 2013 at 11:57 pm

WHOA.

You better stay up all night in order to confirm that the sun rises, Owen.

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Mandy Manners December 22, 2013 at 12:48 am
Mandy Manners December 22, 2013 at 12:06 am

Santa Clause in East Los Angeles.

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Mandy Manners December 22, 2013 at 12:11 am
gracepmc December 22, 2013 at 12:50 am

I was reading an AP report all concerned over whether the man who lives in 1600 Pennsylvania will be able to have an uninterrupted in Hawaii. I am not sure if this is the same guy we know about since AP reports this man as a “typical early riser”. Maybe in Hawaii to get to the links, yeah! But otherwise….he barely makes it to the “office” by noon.

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Mandy Manners December 22, 2013 at 12:50 am

Gah.

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gracepmc December 22, 2013 at 1:02 am
Guillermo Grande December 22, 2013 at 7:14 am

Nice share. Still a bit difficult to determine if they want to vote the bums out because they are are socialist OR because they are not good at being socialists.

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srdem65 December 22, 2013 at 8:37 am

The RevAl meeting was supposed to be about gun control and gun violence in the Black neighborhoods, but the residents were having none of it, so it seems.
They were angry about the “White people” (MayorEmanuel and his regime) not doing anything positve for them; give them money, so it seems.
Angry about home foreclosures, no jobs, and Fed money going to “Negro organizations” that don’t do anything for them; like share the money.
It was ironic to hear them cheer after the elderly Pastor called for “tea party” town halls with their elected officials.

My takeaway from this short clip was that the Blacks in this meeting were racist, greedy dependents who blame their economic status on White people and the elite “negro” organizations.

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Girly1 December 22, 2013 at 8:43 am

Exactly. They are not getting their ‘fair share’.

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Susan December 22, 2013 at 10:34 am

Thank you for sharing, gracepmc. In my opinion, it is a glimmer of hope. The black community is starting to come to the realization that their elected officials aren’t ‘sharing the wealth’ as their president promised, and they aren’t just blaming the white man for their troubles this time around. Agree their goals aren’t exactly altruistic, but it is a sign that they are waking up to the fact that most of their elected officials are more interested in enriching themselves than they are in serving the needs of their constituents. That is how the Tea Party movement was born. Can you imagine how powerful our grass roots movement could be if we all banded together in the fight against the ruling class?

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gracepmc December 22, 2013 at 11:54 am

Powerful it would be. One thing seems to be emerging — people are not all that convinced that big government is the answer. In part, I think, because of the blatant lawlessness, the extravagance of the Administration, and the lack of results. Instead real people are getting impacted in negative ways in their own lives.

Perhaps the Dems and Obama swerved too far left and the country is beginning a course correction.

Still, the leftist court packing and the increasingly brazen over reach of Obama and the petty tyrants regarding the law and the Constitution is worrisome to say the least.

As I said elsewhere, God must be watching over us. Lesser nations might have crumbled. But we are perilously close to that edge.

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gracepmc December 22, 2013 at 6:14 am

Anybody else feel a sense of relief now that he is not on the main land? Seriously.

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Langley Spook December 22, 2013 at 7:00 am

Indeed.
But I can not stand the useless reports from the various network anchors who are in Hawaii “covering” the vaction.
What-The-Hell is there to “report/cover”…? The press is allowed no where near the Obama’s in Hawaii. So why the hell is the press/”WH press corps” there? They just stand on some hotel balcony and spew the talking points/propaganda story of the day about the Obama’s. What a waste of TV time (and network money)

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gracepmc December 22, 2013 at 11:45 am

Your life will improve immeasurably and you will be filled with holiday cheer with the mere click of the remote.

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Island Girl December 23, 2013 at 12:16 am

No not me Grace or Langley:)

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Langley Spook December 22, 2013 at 8:11 am

Im sorry, but what is the deal with that blonde on “Fox & Friends Weekends”…? She reads a story/teleprompter and she sounds like she has no clue what she is reading. And when the witty Tucker Carlson makes a remark she seems clueless and five steps behind in any on-set conversation.

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DeniseVB December 22, 2013 at 8:45 am

I miss Alisyn Camerota on the weekends but they moved her to an afternoon show, so she’s still around.

I’m still not sure I like Elizabeth Hasselbeck. Something about her voice that irritates me. Or maybe it’s like listening to The View?

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MarjoJimbo December 22, 2013 at 9:25 am

I am having a very difficult time watching F&F with Hasselbeck. She acts so immature and “cute”–not professional at all. And the voice really, really gets me.

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DeniseVB December 22, 2013 at 9:59 am

I wish they’d bring in Monica Crowly, a super smart lady. I have to mute the t.v. when Elizabeth gets her squeaky on.

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Julie Brueckheimer December 22, 2013 at 10:35 am

Ditto. Monica Crowley is excellent.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 11:19 am

As I have mentioned, the Hasselbeck spray-tanned legs and Minnie Mouse voice underwhelm me. Camerota is pro-O, tho…always rephrases in favor of the admin.

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SWFL December 22, 2013 at 10:39 am

Good to hear that I am not the only one who is irritated by E. QUACKLEbeck’s voice — just about as annoying as my neighbor’s barking dog. However it seems that most of the women anchors sound like a paddle of ducks.

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Langley Spook December 22, 2013 at 3:42 pm

weekdays = I only watch Imus in the Morning

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Girly1 December 22, 2013 at 10:59 am

Wonder what the ratings are for F&F now that they have jumped the shark. Hasselbeck is unwatchable, and that’s all I have to say. Combine her with the Doucey father/son duo – it’s a disaster.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 11:21 am

Yeah–they are pretty rah-rah..I am never sure how to take Kilmeade, he’s an original, tho… Even MJ with their frowny thought leader picking lint off Joe is a relief.

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Girly1 December 22, 2013 at 12:35 pm

Did you hear that NBC is having problems with David Gregory and MTP? Rumors are flying that NBC execs want to shift it to MSNBC with Joe and Mika taking over the show. EGADS!

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Star December 22, 2013 at 2:12 pm

That would so not be good….

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gracepmc December 22, 2013 at 11:39 am

I pretty much go to FBN in the am. And as time permits and if it is not dreadful the line up is Cavuto, the Five and Special Report. Special Report is really all I need.

Two things — Re. Kilmeade — didn’t he write that new book about Washington’s spies? That made me perk up a bit in my assessment of him. And Hasselback (beck?) — dont’ watch but suspected from the get go that it was not a good decision.

And as an aside, a while back when Doucey Jr. started popping up I wrote to Doucey Sr. along the lines of nepotism, good job security for a young kid in a tough market. Doucey Sr. wrote back that he felt Doucey Jr. had good training and cited the job markets he where he had experience. Not buying that as sufficient to make the big job leap to WDC.

That said, I respect Doucey Sr. for responding. And I think Doucey Jr. might actually be good at some point. Together they are Doucey overkill.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 11:45 am

FNC has the Dooceys and MSNBC has the Deutschy–both names pretty close to you know what…

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gracepmc December 22, 2013 at 12:02 pm

Thanks for the info Star. The Dooceys are about all I can take!

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Star December 22, 2013 at 12:21 pm

Only one of Danny Boy, tho–and he’s not on everyday.

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Owen_Kellogg December 22, 2013 at 9:55 pm

Weekends are the only time I ever catch the lovely and ever-popular Patti Ann Browne.

Patti Ann Browne’s Red-Eye Intros

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srdem65 December 22, 2013 at 8:53 am

The deal? eye candy. Beautiful and intelligent.
MrAyres isn’t a dummy; who would you rather watch wash a car… any one of the babes from FOX/FBN or CNN’s CandyCrowley?

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Susan December 22, 2013 at 10:49 am

Did you meant Ailes rather than Ayres, srdem? Mr. Ayers is the unrepentant domestic terrorist who wrote Preezy’s first composite autobiography.

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srdem65 December 22, 2013 at 11:06 am

oops. You’re right.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 11:24 am

Can we have more choices?

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Star December 22, 2013 at 11:33 am

For the car washing. I would watch Hemmer shine a fender.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 11:34 am

Stossel wasn’t hit with an ugly stick, either.

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Langley Spook December 22, 2013 at 1:22 pm

Srdem65,
If I want “eye candy” I have dozens+ websites for that ;-)

Being a US Vet, History-International Relations student, who is very interested in news/media… (Obama is a Neo-Socialist)

I just feel abit ‘offended’ when “FOX News” has to report ‘news’ with women who, have no clue what they are saying, and are dressed like Las Vegas strippers-hookers

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Langley Spook December 22, 2013 at 1:39 pm

“Fox News/FBN” women = tight dress, short skirt, lots of leg & sexy shoes.

…why is that…?

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Star December 22, 2013 at 2:34 pm

To keep you away from those other websites?

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Langley Spook December 22, 2013 at 3:24 pm

…”those other websites” ;-)

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Star December 22, 2013 at 3:56 pm

You said it…
If I want “eye candy” I have dozens+ websites for that ;-)

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Susan December 22, 2013 at 2:40 pm

Have you seen the movie “Idiocracy”, Langley? There is a bit about Fox News after the two time travelers wake up. The news anchor is buff and shirtless and the anchorette is buxom and scantily clad. It was hilarious. Hope their new dress code isn’t a sign of things to come. We’ve already got our own Preezy Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho. Hope he whiffs every golf ball on his taxpayer funded multi-million dollar Hawaiian vacation.

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Langley Spook December 22, 2013 at 3:21 pm

AMEN Susan.
Since Obama was ‘elected’ in 2008 I feel the movie “Idiocracy” was PROPHETIC!!!

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Blondie December 22, 2013 at 9:05 am

I so agree. I just don’t love the new females on Fox and Friends. They obviously can have eye candy and brains at the same time,( Megyn Kelly) . They need to rethink this decision.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 11:22 am

Is that the Nauert woman? She is on O’Reilly–being groomed for more visibility, I guess…I don’t care for her, nothing special.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 11:26 am

I meant the gal on Sat F&F. These comments just plop in anyplace.

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AFVet December 22, 2013 at 12:16 pm

Send Keith a note Star.
When the traffic on this site gets heavy, like today, the nasty WordPress errors raise their ugly head.
Comments are misplaced, or disappear.
One must have patience when using this site grasshopper.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 12:23 pm

I prob would let Keithe skate on a weekend…but thanks.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 2:36 pm

Shannon Bream seems pretty grounded. But those red dresses–did they buy out the store?

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Girly1 December 22, 2013 at 12:41 pm

Or Juliet Huddy? She has been around, off and on, for a long time. She was hooked up with Mike Jerrick for a couple of years and F&F a few years ago. They’re still trying to fit a square pet into a round hole.

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Girly1 December 22, 2013 at 12:42 pm

‘peg”

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Star December 22, 2013 at 12:44 pm

I love Tucker with his unruly mop and witty remarks. He also is an animal lover.

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Langley Spook December 22, 2013 at 1:11 pm

I luv Tucker, I read “Daily Caller” every day.

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MarjoJimbo December 22, 2013 at 4:06 pm

I enjoy Tucker, too, because he is so unlike the rest of the anchors. He always looks like he rolled out of bed, jumped into clean clothes, and forget to comb his hair.

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Langley Spook December 22, 2013 at 4:41 pm

and Tucker is so snarky & witty on “Fox&Friends Weekends”; Clayton gets him and so does Mike Jerrick. Its the pin-up, scantily-clad, air-headed female co-hosts on “F&F Weekends” who have no clue what Tucker is saying

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Star December 23, 2013 at 11:31 am

He looks so young and preppy–except for the riotous curls and four kids. I dunno–he’s watchable. I also like Gutfeld–funny…but he can be pretty dark even for me. Red Eye is good, tho–that fearful comedian guy–I laff out loud. Saturday nite he said he would give up his guns when the last alligator was dead. I laffed. Not sure where Bill Schulz is these days, tho.

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Girly1 December 22, 2013 at 8:34 am

While it’s great to be rid of the Obamas for a couple of weeks, it really irks me that one of the first things they will do in 2016 is purchase a zillion $$$ estate of their own on one of the Islands….either as a permanent residence or vacation getaway.
They could have afforded their own place in 2009. But, no….they stuck it to the taxpayers. They stuck it to us as no other POTUS in history. When all is said and done, figure each vacay is costing us at least 15M per trip. Eight years = $120M.
Obama loves to brag about being a member of the one percenters but he is no different from his welfare squatter relatives who are still living on the taxpayer dime. Ungrateful SOBs!

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srdem65 December 22, 2013 at 8:48 am

IMO, the Hawaiian vacations will be a dim memory for the Os after 2016. They’ll want to be close to the action on the mainland where MrO is most likely going to follow in Bubba’s footsteps to shake down big corporations with sappy speeches.
MrO likes to give speeches to friendly groups and getting big bucks to do that is just the cherry on top.

They’re going to need some major funds to maintain the lifestyle they enjoyed while living at the WhiteHouse.
WE pay for the people who cook for them, clean their house, carry their laundry to the washing machine and the dry cleaners, drive them around, and that takes more money than they have now.

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DeniseVB December 22, 2013 at 9:13 am

Interesting piece on Penny Pritzer, Obama’s “sugar mommy” ….

http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/2013/12/11/pritzker_wants_chicago_to_be_home.htm

I had heard rumors that she wanted to gift the Obamas of a Hawaiian home? It’ll be interesting where his library goes, guess we’ll have to follow the money :)

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Girly1 December 22, 2013 at 9:19 am

Library? All they need is a place for a TOTUS, an empty chair, and an empty suit. Oh, and a slide projector for the gazillions of Pete Souza masterpieces.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 11:35 am

Maybe they can get the mix tape back from the Queen of Eng.

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gracepmc December 22, 2013 at 11:56 am

And a good money laundering operation. Along the lines of the Clinton Foundation perhaps.

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Julie Brueckheimer December 22, 2013 at 10:41 am

I agree. They will want to be near the media markets so my guess is NYC first or maybe LA at the outside. I don’t think they can match the Clintons, however. He will be leaving under a cloud whether he lasts the next three years. Clinton left with high popularity in spite of his impeachment. And the Clintons have made all kinds of foreign ties. Pardon my French, with the NSA scandal, Obama has pissed in his soup.

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DeniseVB December 22, 2013 at 8:52 am

I wonder what the deal is on their Chicago house ? Is it just sitting empty? There’s no “home” there that’s for sure.

Except for the Clintons, most prezzies LOVED going home on their breaks. Carter had his farm, the Bushes had Kennebunkport and a ranch as did Nixons and Reagans. All located on the mainland.

I think the Clintons had many more friends and were invited to their homes or given use of their homes. Most wealthy people have built in security, so less headaches for secret service guys. Then there’s Camp David which they used a lot.

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Girly1 December 22, 2013 at 9:16 am

The O’s are squeezing as much as they can out of us while the gettin’ is good. MO made it pretty clear she doesn’t want to go back to Chicago – the winters are too harsh. Well kiss my grits, lady, you never cease to remind everyone that you are from the Southside.
Their behavior is typical of nouveau riche lottery winners. They weren’t exactly pillars of the mainstream community, lol.

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MarjoJimbo December 22, 2013 at 9:29 am

Great analogy to nouveau riche lottery winners. And when the money is all gone…

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Carol December 22, 2013 at 10:47 am

If you key in these words: “Obama neighbors welcome four more years of increased security” you can read that the Obamas 6400 square foot Hyde Park home in Chicago is still being protected with our tax dollars. All of the neighbors on the street have to call the secret service if they are going to have company and blah blah blah…

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Girly1 December 22, 2013 at 11:04 am

Is anyone living there? Why not move Granny, Aunt Ziti and Uncle Omar off the taxpayer’s dole and let them live there.

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Lee December 22, 2013 at 12:37 pm

I wondered why they didn’t invite that crew over and all of them celebrate Christmas right there.
It would have cost me (you) a lot less money.
This really need to be addressed, another issue getting brushed under the rug. If they pay their own way, I don’t care if they go to the moon.

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Susan December 22, 2013 at 11:12 am

Ran a similar search and came up with this jewel. Seems Barry used his Chicago neighbors as an election year publicity stunt during one of his few pit stops to the home Rezko bought…

“George opened his door to find the president of the United States—accompanied by roughly 15 handlers, bodyguards, and photographers.”

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/April-2012/Barack-Obama-Next-Door-Neighbor/

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Girly1 December 22, 2013 at 12:46 pm

At least he didn’t have his overnight bag with him, lol. Sometimes I think he prefers to be anywhere but ‘home’.

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AZ Granny December 22, 2013 at 11:07 am

I think the Chicago house must be a major embarrassment for Michelle Antoinette in that it’s not the huge and elegant mansion that she feels she deserves.

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AFVet December 22, 2013 at 12:21 pm

I think that they will sell it and make a ton of money.
I can’t see them living in Chicago.

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AZ Granny December 22, 2013 at 12:47 pm

No, I’m sure they’d rather live where Mooch’s BFF Beyonce lives or perhaps he’d rather live amongst the stars in Hollyweird.

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AFVet December 22, 2013 at 1:08 pm

Maybe they will set ValJar up in there.

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Langley Spook December 22, 2013 at 3:33 pm

…too bad NO ONE in the “MSM” nowadays ever asks/looks into the Chicago (Cook County) ‘background/history’ of the “Obama’s”…

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Langley Spook December 22, 2013 at 1:52 pm

The “Obama’s” are FAKES.
Everything just worked out that ‘Barack Hussein Obama’ ended up in Chicago [a hot bed of corrupt Democrats/Neo-Socialists] since he had no ‘life/school/college/work’ records.
“Obama” somehow became a “local politician” and then he and the ‘wookie’ Michelle found each other…
And the rest is Fiction…a no body State politician from corrupt Chicago/Cook County becomes a “US Senator” who did nothing (?) and then the “President of the USA” in 2008…???

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AFVet December 22, 2013 at 2:23 pm

Well LS,…that nails it,..you’re a racist.
And here I thought you had such great potential.

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Langley Spook December 22, 2013 at 3:49 pm
DeniseVB December 22, 2013 at 10:06 am

Wonder why Obama’s pal Tiger doesn’t invite him for a visit ? Or loan him his home? Wowsa!

http://www.jeffrealty.com/blog/2010/11/exclusive-first-look-at-tiger-woods-jupiter-island-home-golf-course/

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AFVet December 22, 2013 at 1:26 pm

Yes but he doesn’t have a 747 at his beck and command !
Wowsa is right.

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Ellen Hack December 22, 2013 at 10:08 am

I’m going to try a little experiment this week. The Obamas don’t exist. There is a fine, conservative (generic) President and his family in the White House. All is right with the world. This afternoon, I am part of a wonderful chorus singing our third performance of Handel’s Messiah in three days. (This part’s real.) I plan to leave the beautiful church we are singing in (St. Anne’s in Annapolis) with love in my heart and a smile on my face. Anyone want to try this with me? Singing is not required! :-)

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Star December 22, 2013 at 11:32 am

Sounds lovely. When used to carol when we were kids back in St Louis County–the neighbors acr the street had a huge buffet of sandwiches and about a million types of Christmas cookies for after. The collection went to Unicef, as I recall. Sometimes it was snowy and nose-nipping cold.

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gracepmc December 22, 2013 at 12:05 pm

Wonderful.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 2:15 pm

Anyone remember the movie Zorba the Greek–the crazy joy of life…I was listening to the song where Zorba dances on the beach–it’s not Christmassy but it lifts me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHphVu1ZSRc

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DeniseVB December 22, 2013 at 10:13 am

Interesting piece of history about Donald Trump’s Palm Beach, FL home. It was willed to the government as a winter White House for the President to use.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-A-Lago

I don’t think The Donald has offered it to the Obamas :)

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georgia December 22, 2013 at 10:27 am

The original ‘Rosie the Riveter’ girl is now 93 years old and still working on the California assembly line (47 years of commitment and self reliance)

VS

Pajama Boy sipping hot chocolate in his footed pajamas in his parents home

Old School Rules!

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Island Girl December 23, 2013 at 12:19 am

~like~

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georgia December 22, 2013 at 10:31 am

Rosie-the Riveter vs Pajama Boy

The original Rosie-the-Riveter has worked on the CA assembly line for the last 47 years and is still working. A demonstration of a strong work ethic and self reliance vs pajama boy sitting in his footed pajamas sipping hot chocolate in his parents home.

Old School Rules!

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Julie Brueckheimer December 22, 2013 at 10:59 am

I’ve spent a few minutes unsuccessfully trying to find out who might be the Senate Majority Leader should 1) the Republicans win back the Senate and 2) Mitch McConnell not be re-elected. Does anyone know or have a good guess? I know seniority plays a role in the decision but it’s not the conclusive criterion. I was hoping Jeff Sessions stood a chance. We need someone with knowledge of the Constitution.

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Girly1 December 22, 2013 at 11:17 am

I really like Jeff Sessions – he is a strong opponent of amnesty. When it comes to the Constitution, no one knows it better than Ted Cruz. I hope it’s not strictly a case of seniority – that would be John McCain, no?

Hope there is a new majority leader in the House! Rep Mike Kelly (PA) would get my vote. Boehner, Cantor, and McCarthy need to be sent home..

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Julie Brueckheimer December 22, 2013 at 11:29 am

Agree. I think Cruz is too new to get the top position plus, unfortunately, too many RINOs are left to oppose him. It’s not strictly by seniority, and I feel pretty confident McCain would not get it. I share your hopes on the House. If the conservatives get the majority of new House seats in 2014, they will vote in a new House leadership.

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DeniseVB December 22, 2013 at 11:39 am

I was shocked Boehner was re-elected House Leader after Obama’s re-election.

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AFVet December 22, 2013 at 11:49 am

Keep in mind Denise that the speaker of the house does not have to be a sitting member.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 12:35 pm

Doesn’t have to be, but I can almost guarantee it will be. the whole Baucus to China deal was a wire job–then Landrieu takes over Energy which consolidates her…

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AFVet December 22, 2013 at 11:45 am

I like Sessions too.
Keep in mind that Obama was a junior senator and he was elected POTUS.
Rules be damned, we need to take our Country back.

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AFVet December 22, 2013 at 11:30 am

How about Ted Cruz ?
Or Mike Lee ?
BTW, that would be my ticket for 2016 also.
Although I admire Sarah Palin, I think that she would make a great senator as opposed to running on the presidential ticket.
After the Obama administration concludes it’s devastation of America, we’re going to need a major movement to restore this Country back to the Constitutional Principles it was founded upon.
3 more years is a long time given the way this regime works.
The devastation already has impacted us for years to come.

Anyway,…that’s my take Julie.

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Susan December 22, 2013 at 12:00 pm

The origin of the Senate majority/minority leadership positions is interesting. Seems to be another one of those progressive (aka communist) creations of the Woodrow Wilson presidency.

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Majority_Minority_Leaders.htm

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AFVet December 22, 2013 at 12:36 pm

That’s an interesting link Susan.
The chart provided does indeed give relevance to the Wilson presidency, and the march toward progressive policies.

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Langley Spook December 22, 2013 at 1:59 pm

US Senate & US House = “A pox on both your houses…”

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Star December 22, 2013 at 12:27 pm

New subj–anyone else having fits with debit or credit cards bec of the Target thing? Chase cut amt you can get to $200…which came as a shock to my kid who works nites and shops in the early hrs of the morning–predawn. Card bounced. She tried another one (of mine, which she has permission to use) and they also bounced it–then called me this AM to say someone tried to use the card for an even amt of money at 4 am in Walmart. Uh. yes, us! I guess they are trying to help us…I can only take so much helping…

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gracepmc December 22, 2013 at 12:39 pm

Yikes!

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AZ Granny December 22, 2013 at 12:53 pm

Chase is trying to cut their losses. Customer inconvenience isn’t even on their radar.

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Girly1 December 22, 2013 at 12:54 pm

i think it’s a limit of $100 for a withdrawal and $300 for purchases. Heard some financial expert on FOX who said the US is the only country on the planet with such an antiquated fraud protection system. It’s a matter of ‘cost’ and the banks do not want to spend the $$$ to upgrade.

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AFVet December 22, 2013 at 1:00 pm

PNC Bank sent me an e-mail today that they are on the watch as far as any charges made to Target.
That’s great, as we do not shop at Target.
Also, we do not use debit cards.

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DeniseVB December 22, 2013 at 1:22 pm

I got a call the other day from Master Card via USAA savings bank saying my card was compromised (two charges made in a UK and South America “gift shop”). Somehow a flag went up and my card was frozen. They sure know my shopping habits :) They’re sending me a new card/acct number and all.

And no, haven’t shopped in Target in months. Scary, huh?

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AFVet December 22, 2013 at 1:35 pm

Same thing happened to me a few months ago with VISA.
I saw a discrepancy on my statement, called them and they immediately issued me a new card.
They don’t mess around anymore.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 2:19 pm

They say check your bank acct daily if you use debit. We usually do anyhow–to see how broke we are.

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MarjoJimbo December 22, 2013 at 5:22 pm

I had one of the those small charges on my Visa card–it was something like $6.17. I called, the card was cancelled, and a new one sent.

That went so much easier than when my daughter’s credit card, on our account at the time, was stolen and almost immediately used. We reported it within an hour, and Walgreen’s wouldn’t believe that she wasn’t buying diapers and formula (she was in college at the time).

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gracepmc December 22, 2013 at 11:34 pm

Good to know that USAA self corrected on your Mcard.

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gracepmc December 22, 2013 at 12:39 pm

Russian History is one of “my things”. I was reading a book thread and someone mentioned Catherine Merridale. I had never heard of her. British Historian — 3 books on Russia. They sound interesting to me. I am going to start with Night of Stone.

Anyway, if you have an interest, check her out.

http://catherinemerridale.com/books.html

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Julie Brueckheimer December 22, 2013 at 2:26 pm

Thanks, Grace. That is an interest we have in common.

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gracepmc December 22, 2013 at 11:36 pm

Yep I remember. Do you know anything of Merridale? Either way I like the topics she chose.

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Lee December 22, 2013 at 1:13 pm

I just got back from shopping. Had to stop at the big Wolly World store.
As usual when your leaving you have to show your receipt.
I told the young lady, this is starting to look like a communist country, when I cannot walk out the store without being checked.
She was young. and cannot remember a time when people could go shopping without being checked.
I still appreciate the time I could open up a medicine bottle or milk, without ripping a nail off.
We maybe advancing with all types of things like computers, cell phs, etc., but I feel other things now make life a bit harder.
I also found out last week. That they can listen to conversations at the wonderful Wolly World store. So I have cameras filming me all day long, now being listened to as I choose what I would like to buy.

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AFVet December 22, 2013 at 1:53 pm

She wanted to see your receipt to prove that your are not a shoplifter.
The young lady is employed, and was told to check for receipts.
She is performing her job as to the mandates that the management has set forth.
Keep in mind that the camera is on her too.
Next time,….wish her a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Put yourself in her shoes.
Standing there for hours checking people’s receipts.
A very intriguing job indeed.
Not.
I hope that she is successful in her endeavors in life.

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Lee December 22, 2013 at 2:12 pm

Oh no, I did not blame the young lady. I had a pleasant conversation with her. Just comparing now and than. I see her quite often and she knew I was not blaming her.

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Girly1 December 22, 2013 at 1:55 pm

COSTCO has the same procedure. Sooo degrading. Speaking of communist countries, plastic bags are going to be banned in L.A. county starting Jan.1. Paper bags will be available for 10 cents apiece for 6 months. After that, you’re on your own.
The enviros have gone crazy! I hope we won’t be fined or thrown in jail if we are caught red-handed with these banned bags cuz I am going to order them in bulk and just take them when I go shopping. The tote bags that are sold at the markets are unsanitary after a few uses. The heck with them.

It feels like a third world country now – no incandescent bulbs, plastic or paper bags. What’s next – recycled toilet paper?

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srdem65 December 22, 2013 at 2:19 pm

Question if you don’t mind; what about pre-bagged items…apples, potatoes, etc…no plastic for them either? No plastic covers for paper products, or meats, frozen items?

I hate to ask this, but..why? Why not just recycle plastic bags?

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Lee December 22, 2013 at 2:54 pm

I would like to make another point since we are discussing bags and groceries.
I am tired of the boxes getting smaller. As well the cookies getting smaller. We are paying more money for less product.
I know, I know: We have more important things to be concerned with.

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Julie Brueckheimer December 22, 2013 at 3:21 pm

You’re correct, and it’s hidden inflation.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 4:07 pm

Yes–deflation inflation.

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Julie Brueckheimer December 22, 2013 at 8:18 pm

: – ))

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Lee December 22, 2013 at 9:05 pm
Girly1 December 22, 2013 at 4:25 pm

Pay more, get less. Remember when MO started beating up on the restaurant industry for serving too much food? She demanded that they serve smaller portions b/c Americans are getting too fat.
IMO, the food industry, in general, is using this as an excuse to increase profits. Who knows, MO could be working in tandem with them for political reasons/donations. The reality is….she doesn’t give a fig about ‘the children’ or nutrition – it’s all about her.

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Girly1 December 22, 2013 at 3:49 pm

Good question, srdem. The pre-bagged and plastic for meats and perishables will not change. Only the carry-out bags.

The $64.,000 question is why not recycle? It’s inexplicable:

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When a bag ban is enacted, the use of reusable bags – 90 percent of which are imported from China – and paper bags jump significantly. Life cycle studies show that imported reusable bags must be reused more than 50 times to provide an environmental benefit comparable to that of using a plastic bag only once.

Perhaps most troubling is evidence that where local bans on plastic bags have been implemented, there has been an exponential increase in the use of paper bags. Sadly, the anti-plastic lobby and public policymakers are now ignoring the fact that a single-use paper bag requires cutting down and shipping trees to be manufactured, using millions more gallons of water, energy and chemicals. The process emits staggering amounts of industrial pollution and destroys animal habitats. Yet, this is somehow now an acceptable alternative to plastic bags.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/09/25/5765328/viewpoints-finally-a-solution.html#storylink=cpy

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MarjoJimbo December 22, 2013 at 5:27 pm

Dare County, North Carolina, (Outer Banks) banned plastic bags years ago because of the bags winding up where they weren’t wanted, i.e., the shore and ocean. Paper bags are okay.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 2:23 pm

You can wash those canvas totes–I have blogged on how you should. In 50 yrs most of us will be dead anyhow. How are we supposed to get soda home in 5 yrs–in our cupped hands, which in a few gens will be webbed?

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Star December 22, 2013 at 2:28 pm

We also go to Fry’s for grox–a Kroger div. A year ago, maybe more, they started interrogating us about items on the bottom shelf of the cart that we might “forget” to “declare.” This upset sis so much she complained to national management–and finally they quit doing it. They would stare at you in a meaningful way like an Israeli airport security guard and ask, “Is there anything else in your cart?”

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Star December 22, 2013 at 2:31 pm

My electric co informed me that if I put an LED bulb in my baby’s room now, it would not need to be changed until the tot left for college. Yeah–so? Thanks for sharing.

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srdem65 December 22, 2013 at 3:16 pm

SRP? They had a “free” giveaway last year of the super-duper-fantastic bulbs in all sizes; 8 in all.
There are only 3 left, the rest burned out.

Included with the freebie was a note informing the household that if a bulb breaks, everyone must evacuate the home and call the HazMat team to clear the poisons spewed into the air.
Nice.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 3:53 pm

Yes, Salt River Project… When I got a new heat pump. $7000ish, of course the one I could afford did not quaify for a rebate from them.

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Lee December 22, 2013 at 4:02 pm

Are you serious?

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Lee December 22, 2013 at 4:04 pm

This was responding to srdem65.

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srdem65 December 22, 2013 at 4:26 pm

Yep, read the fine print on the package sometime. Scary.
On the side of the package are instructions to visit “epa.gov/cfl” for a “clean up and safe disposal”.
These bulbs contain mercury.

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srdem65 December 22, 2013 at 4:28 pm
Lee December 22, 2013 at 6:21 pm

Thanks for the link.
I will be stocking up on old fashioned bulbs.

Girly1 December 22, 2013 at 3:54 pm

LOL! I put two LEDs in the ceiling outlets of my basement and both of them burned out after 18 months. Plus they flickered every time I turned the light switch on and they cast a greenish shadow.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 4:05 pm

Yeah and if I had a baby or a baby’s room, they would probably crack all over the hapless infant.

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AZ Granny December 22, 2013 at 8:54 pm

Star, our Fry’s still interrogates us “do you have anything on the bottom of your cart we can help you with?” Some day I’m going to say yes to see if the cashier will even walk around to help. My guess is they won’t. Sometimes the silent nods between the bagger and cashier are telling too. They’re always watching. They want our money/business but I don’t like to go where I’m treated like a criminal. Sorry for the rant!

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Star December 23, 2013 at 11:37 am

Darn–thought my sister had straightened them out–maybe they are just afraid of us…we are a handful.

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Susan December 22, 2013 at 3:30 pm

There is a ban on plastic shopping bags in Austin, Texas. Not on packaged grocery items, just carry-out bags. Hard to believe the Austin environazi’s are ahead of L.A. county. Really stupid because it just drives shoppers out of Austin and into the neighboring cities.

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MarjoJimbo December 22, 2013 at 5:24 pm

I just love a rebel, Girly!

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Frederick December 22, 2013 at 2:47 pm

Those supporting the Phil Robertsons stand or dislike the morality common on TV, might like to ask their Representatives to support McCain’s S 912 Bill. S.912 – The Television Consumer Freedom Act of 2013, would allow unbundling of Cable Channels. In short, you could add or subtract cable video channels on a ‘a la carte basis’ with your cable provider.

This Bill would allow you to put force into your TV channel selections. Networks don’t care if watch or not because they still get paid. But if you do not have to pay for an offensive network and their staffs networks would be much more sensitive to the public. At present for example, you have to buy MSNBC to watch FOX 9 (and vice versa). Under the proposed new law a television broadcast station that does not retransmit an over-the-air signal identical to the signal retransmitted would foreit the spectrum license of the station back to the FCC for re-auctioning. TV commercial advertisements of up to 60 seconds in duration would be stil be exempt.

Support a la carte programming.

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Julie Brueckheimer December 22, 2013 at 3:20 pm

What’s with Greta Van Susteren? She was on Steffie’s program bemoaning Obama’s last press conference and how the WH reporters were picking on him when he’s down instead of supporting him? Maybe she belongs on MSNBC.

His being down is all of his own making or calculated to make you feel pity for him. Apparently it’s worked with Greta.

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Star December 22, 2013 at 3:51 pm

Wow–that doesn’t sound like her…She usually plays it down the middle… I have seen her recently on her own show hitting the dark side of Forcible Care pretty hard…

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Girly1 December 22, 2013 at 4:07 pm

Evidently Greta tried to re-join CNN a few months ago. It didn’t materialize and she re-signed with FOX. Haven’t watched her lately…her voice hurts my head.

http://www.aim.org/don-irvine-blog/fox-news-greta-van-susteren-apparently-tried-and-failed-to-rejoin-cnn/

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AFVet December 22, 2013 at 7:06 pm

“her voice hurts my head.”
Amen,….nails on a chalkboard.

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Lee December 22, 2013 at 4:11 pm

I am sure she will get a lot of response.
It is about time the reporters do their job Up or Down: He has a lot to explain!
As I have mentioned, if he were behind his desk trying to figure
Benghazi, IRS, and all the other scandels he would get some…type of support. Untill than…..

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Lee December 22, 2013 at 4:12 pm

This was a response for Julie Brueckheimer.
Comment posted wrong spot.

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srdem65 December 22, 2013 at 5:25 pm

Cracker Barrel restaurants replaced all of the Duck Commander items that they had removed in response to the controversy. They issued a public apology to their customers for their action.

IMO, too little, too late. In a rush to be PC for the LBGT community, they offended their whole customer base.

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MarjoJimbo December 22, 2013 at 5:31 pm

Not that I would go there anyway, but this sure doesn’t enamor them to me at all. Another business decision.

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Lee December 22, 2013 at 5:42 pm

I am offended by that place. I am the consumer, and I make the choice if I am interested or not. I do not appreciate them speaking for the public. I am going to buy an item today.
THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!
FREEDEM OF SPEECH!!!!!!!!!!!
I have to listen to vulgarity and other things I am not interested in, but I can change the channel. I do not need anyone doing that for me.

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Susan December 22, 2013 at 6:36 pm

My first comment is in moderation, so I’ll change a few words and try this again. I respect Cracker Barrel for listening to their customers, and admitting they made a wrong decision. If only something like that could happen in Gomorrah on the Potomac. Imagine politicians actually admitting they made the wrong decision when they passed Preezy’s liberty stealing health insurance scam.

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Lee December 22, 2013 at 7:17 pm

Heard on the radio just now that the mayor of Houston, tweeted her dislike for the man let go by A&E.
All the problems any big city has, and the mayor is tweeting against someone talking about his beliefs.
Well she forgets while she is tweeting she has the right to give her comment, but she don’t like anyone else having the same right!

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Bonnie December 22, 2013 at 8:22 pm

You forgot to mention GAY mayor of Houston. You can be gay, you can be mayor–just don’t push your lifestyle and way of life on others. The mayor of Houston is in a class all her own.

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Susan December 22, 2013 at 8:28 pm

That creature is Democrat Annise Parker. She is a radical homosexual. Tolerance for another person’s religious beliefs is not a two-way street with her type.

Annise Parker ‏@anniseparker 21 Dec
When i called Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty “a redneck wingnut whose views are completely irrelevant” I was serious. Who cares?-A

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DeniseVB December 22, 2013 at 9:26 pm
srdem65 December 22, 2013 at 10:01 pm

“By Associated Press, Updated: Sunday, December 22, 6:42 PM
HONOLULU — President Barack Obama and the vacationing first family momentarily skipped the beach in Hawaii on Sunday to take in a college basketball game.

Obama, first fady Michelle Obama and daughters Sasha and Malia attended the Oregon State-Akron game Sunday at the Diamond Head Classic tournament in Honolulu”

“..first fady…? lol.

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Lee December 22, 2013 at 10:29 pm

I love the beach. I wouldn’t spend millions of dollars of (other people) tax people money to go to a ball game.
I would go to the beach!
If I traveled to Peniscola, the first thing I would do is go to the
BEACH.
That’s just me. Good night, all

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Julie Brueckheimer December 22, 2013 at 10:35 pm

Someone didn’t know how to spell ‘fatty’. First Fatty.

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Lee December 22, 2013 at 11:11 pm
Susan December 22, 2013 at 10:41 pm

Whoops! Where’s that spell check when you need it? Guess AP was in a rush to get this hot off the press breaking story to print.

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