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Rumsfeld Flummoxes Andrea Mitchell

by Keith Koffler on February 22, 2011, 6:34 pm

Just thought you all might want to take a look at this interview of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld by Andrea Mitchell. Rumsfeld is promoting his new book, Known and Unknown: A Memoir, a major portion of which deals with his time in the Bush administration.

I’ve rarely seen a political figure tie a top news personality up in such knots. And Andrea Mitchell is certainly smarter than average for the TV interviewer species. It’s 16 minutes of very compelling viewing.

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Len S. February 22, 2011 at 6:52 pm

Why is it down to 5:13 now?

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Keith Koffler February 22, 2011 at 7:53 pm

Thanks – it was the wrong one. Right one is on there now. I put both parts up.

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srdem65 February 22, 2011 at 7:37 pm

Her attempt to pin the DirtyRat badge on him went awry and her desperate looks to her producer didn’t help.
Only time and history will tell if America did the right thing in Iraq. It’s too soon to point fingers at wrongdoing.

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Tom February 23, 2011 at 9:48 am

CORRECT.

Right now, we don’t know. I was for the invasion but *not* for the nation building; we should have hauled ass the moment we toppled that Saddam statue – let the Iraqi’s fight it out. Instead Bush decided to nation-build (using our tax dollars).

But SRDEM is right, only time will tell.

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Star February 23, 2011 at 10:27 am

Someone wrote to the AZ Republic this AM and pointed out that he was roped into Vietnam and now people build factories and go on vacation there…so this stuff is slow breaking.

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Milla February 22, 2011 at 8:38 pm

Mitchell is too blond, she looks awful. Also, she should learn how to stop looking at guests she doesn’t like as though she believes she cleaned them off her shoe. So unprofessional. Also, maybe try to you know, not LEAD the witness, but let him testify?

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Keith Koffler February 22, 2011 at 9:12 pm

I know, she hardly let him speak. It was more like she wanted to make her points than really get answers. And of course she new her colleagues were be cheering for her to make mincemeat out of him.

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Star February 23, 2011 at 10:29 am

Is this mean–we call her Skeletor at our house.

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Keith Koffler February 23, 2011 at 10:47 am

I have some good stories about her husband, Greenspan. He has no sense of humor about himself. I once met them at a party, and good naturedly thanked him for the low rate on my mortgage. He scowled and she kind of looked at him like “C’mon, honey, that was kind of funny.”

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Star February 23, 2011 at 10:50 am

I always think of him kneeling next to Ayn Rand….

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Tom February 23, 2011 at 4:24 pm

Keith, I swear! You must have more cool stories like that … ok, start a webpage with “Keith’s war stories.” Its THOSE types of stories you really find out about our leaders and those in the gummint.

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Chuck February 22, 2011 at 8:55 pm

Rumsfeld has always been one of my favorite political personalities. He is absolutely unrivaled in his handling of the press, always was and as shown here, he still has it.

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Keith Koffler February 22, 2011 at 9:15 pm

I like him too. Wouldn’t want to be working for him though . . . seems like one of these types who suddenly and fiercely lunges at you – rhetorically – from unexpected directions.

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Russ February 23, 2011 at 10:26 am

Yeah, that’s a sign you’re actually playing in the leagues where you count.

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Sean February 23, 2011 at 10:28 am

Seems a rather rash and, more importantly, unfounded criticism.

He’s very tough, I think most people who’ve worked for him have said that. But when you’re SecDef, bad decisions get good and brave Americans killed. I too, and all Americans I venture, would want nothing but the best from the people I selected to work in those roles.

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Keith Koffler February 23, 2011 at 10:44 am

Fair enough. It’s speculative, I admit, just my feeling. Though I have seen specific accounts that he can cut you off at the shins and that at least some staff lived in terror. Question is whether one deserves it. Anyway, can’t help liking the guy, and probably won’t have to work for him.

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Star February 23, 2011 at 10:32 am

I used to have a boss like that–he’s dead now, and I’m not.

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MikeT February 23, 2011 at 11:32 am

I have worked for guys like that and enjoyed it immensely. You have to force yourself to be as thorough and as smart as him. For example, nothing that happened in this interview should have been a surprise to Andrea Mitchell. She was unprepared and had convinced herself that the “choir” information was unchallengeable. 9 minutes with Rummy has disabused her of that illusion! She could be a better reporter because of it…though I doubt it.

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Keith Koffler February 23, 2011 at 11:40 am

Good point. Meeting the challenge of working for him might be rewarding, as long as criticism isn’t doled out on a whim.

And you’ve nailed it. The Washington press corps, and Washington elite opinion in general, is a body that operates under certain assumptions that only Neanderthals dare challenge. One of those assumptions is that the secret undisclosed location where Cheney hung out was in fact Hades, and he often had Rummy there for a scotch. Meanwhile, Colin Powell tried in vain to shine the forces of light into the Bush administration. She was indeed unprepared because she was repeating contentions she thought irrefutable, until he refuted them.

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Tom February 23, 2011 at 4:28 pm

Good point.

The hatred of conservatives by the Marxist-left MSM is evident in Mitchell’s inability to do her job – which means to be honest, opening and questioning of everything. The media is to be a watchdog, not a lapdog of the administration (courtesy Michael Savage).

“Neanderthals” = oh my, I laughed my ass on that one, Keith! :-)

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Clark February 23, 2011 at 8:30 am

Is it just me, or did it look like she actively abandoned a particular line of questioning at the end? It seems like she recognized she was failing and chose, instead, to discuss pleasant anecdotes mentioned in the book. I suppose it could have been planned that way all along, but it seemed like an abrupt reversal.

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Chuck February 23, 2011 at 8:40 am

I hate it when the reporter frames a question like this; ‘Some people have claimed ….’, or ‘According to some, ….’. She does this throughout the interview, and it is nothing but a trap. The listener, of course, has NO idea who these ‘Some people’ are! It is a cheap trick to lure the audience into believing something that may have no truth.

On the other hand, Mr. Rumsfeld maintains perfect composure and does not let this ‘journalist’ sully him. He shines. She &$&#@(&.

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alanstorm February 23, 2011 at 8:52 am

“And Andrea Mitchell is certainly smarter than average for the TV interviewer species.”

Now THAT’S damning with faint praise…a bag of cement is smarter than the average TV interviewer.

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Lazarus Long February 23, 2011 at 8:58 am

I LOVED where Andrea cited someone as part of her ongoing attack and Rummy replied “Never heard of him.”

Hilarious.

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K T Cat February 23, 2011 at 9:06 am

Andrea is skillfull, but her prep seems to have consisted of reading everything she could get her hands on from DailyKos and the rest. You’re right, Rumsfeld just totally overmatches her.

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Tom February 23, 2011 at 9:50 am

Daily Kos, Huffington Post, FireDogLake are the main talking points of the left (including some POLITICO and TPM stories) which *scream* corrupt, machine-style politics. Mitchell is but a fool among the rest of the beltway borrachone’s.

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Bill February 23, 2011 at 9:17 am

Excellent videos.

It’s a shame the interviewer can’t be quiet long enough to let him finish one thought before jumping to the next setup for the “gotcha” moment that never comes.

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Jerry February 23, 2011 at 10:12 am

Rumsfeild does define unflappable. I miss the days when the administration had competent members of staff available for interviews. The press is still backseat driving the previous administration while their approach to this one brings to mind an old ZZ top song. If you haven’t guessed, it goes,

“How could anyone be so unkind To arrest a man for drivin’ while blind.”

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Delcy Voisine February 23, 2011 at 10:27 am

Did you happen to watch Morning Joe today? They had a laugh fit over how Andrea Mitchell made a fool of him. Can you explain the difference in the way people hear and interpret conversation?

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Keith Koffler February 23, 2011 at 10:40 am

That’s very interesting. It seems pretty clear to me here that she’s getting nowhere and looking unprepared at best. Thanks for letting us know.

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debiesam February 23, 2011 at 10:39 am

Just brilliant. She can’t trip him up because he’s so smart and has a good memory. He’s very precise. She ends up looking like an idiot. He turns the table completely so that he is challenging almost everything SHE says. She can’t keep her statements straight.

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Keith Koffler February 23, 2011 at 10:50 am

Yeah, for an older guy, the brain machinery is sure working pretty well. Would have been tough jousting with him during senior administration meetings, I’ll bet.

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Net hick February 23, 2011 at 10:48 am

You have to wonder if these “so called” news professionals ever view their recorded interviews. If Ms. Mitchell reviews this one she would have to notice the bias exuding from her with every question. Rumsfeld is pimping a book, not running for President.

This is one of the most unprofessional interviews I have ever seen. I am no big fan of Rumsfeld but this would barely pass for an acceptable interview on a high school cable access channel – it might get a C if the teacher liked blonds.

MSNBC, there is a reason FOX is cleaning your clock with ratings. Watch this video again and honestly ask yourself how this helps the credibility of your network. What are the chances that Andrea Mitchell will interview the President before next year’s Super Bowl?

Zero.

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Star February 23, 2011 at 10:54 am

That part where she tries to nail him on Shinsieki..his replacement, his successor, etc….reminded me of going to the PO in DC one say and giving the guy a $20…He said, “Do you have anything smaller?” I said sorry, I didn’t. “A ten, a five?” I said, “I know what smaller is, I just don’t have it.”

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Sean February 23, 2011 at 10:54 am

“You have to wonder if these “so called” news professionals ever view their recorded interviews.”
I’m pretty sure that after her shift was over she went and got a stiff drink, and the staff were informed to never bring this event up again. Ever.

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Net hick February 23, 2011 at 11:16 am

These two are just not in the same “mental league” with regard to international policy. Mitchell looks like a high-school student trying to attack Donald Trump for his development practices – very difficult work for someone who is yet to build their first building.

Rumsfeld is treated like the caricature of Mitchell’s political assumptions. She appears completely startled after she discovers he is really a brilliant man. That is why she changed the subject and tried to be pleasant at the end of the interview. She hopes that is what the public remembers.

Earth to Andrea – you’re disagreeing with someone does not make them stupid or wrong. It only makes you look like a very old high school student.

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Some Guy February 23, 2011 at 11:33 am

I’ve met Andrea Mitchell. She really is as dumb as she comes across in this clip. It probably took her staff weeks to school her up enough to look even this good.

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Wants a Transcript February 23, 2011 at 11:33 am

Is there a transcript?

(I really liked Rumsfeld–we got a lot of bang for our buck with that guy).

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Keith Koffler February 23, 2011 at 11:42 am

check MSNBC news website, they might put one up.

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Tom February 23, 2011 at 4:23 pm

Honestly, we did. Rumsfeld gave us a quick victory with limited casualties, while *destroying* the entire military capability of Iraq. [ This is typical of Arab armies … the majority (except for Jordan) are political playdo of their leaders and easily pushed aside when push comes to shove.

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stevie February 23, 2011 at 11:48 am

He’s a seasoned liar and she hardly has a history of asking ‘tough’ questions of BushCo employees. Hardly a match. Both he and Douglas Feith should be rotting in Gitmo by now, yet they walk among us.

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HeadsUp February 23, 2011 at 1:02 pm

Hey Stevie! Have another KoolAid. Drink up. When you wake up, look into how all of your interests have been hijacked by unfriendlies. Learn to do your homework.

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stevie February 23, 2011 at 1:49 pm

Do your own homework. The original koolaid drinkers are BushCo apologists. You’re just a mimic; and unintelligible at that.

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news junkie February 23, 2011 at 12:14 pm

I can’t help but hear Rush Limbaugh impersonating her, ANDreaaa MITchell.

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Keith Koffler February 23, 2011 at 12:38 pm

he loves it.

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Jared O'Malley February 23, 2011 at 12:56 pm

Currently reading his book, its great and I can’t put it down. If anything, it appears that Rumsfeld was very much counter on many major decisions made by State and others after 9/11. He was definitely not a cheerleader, and he seems to have been very cautious on nearly every major decision he advised Bush to make.

These media hacks hate him, because he is so precise in proving what happened or not.

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MikeHu February 23, 2011 at 12:58 pm

Mitchell is a stupid political hack, who I would argue is clearly NOT “certainly smarter than average for the TV interviewer species” (and if she is, that is a really low bar). I will always remember her telling Imus, that everyone knew that Plame was an operative – and then after letting that slip out retracted it, as if you can magma back in the magma chamber. She’s been a disgrace for years. “Ooh, Colin Powell said, Colin Powell said….” Just shut up.

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mike February 23, 2011 at 1:06 pm

good stuff. it’s fascinating to watch this alternate reality liberals and liberal journos have constructed over the years being dismantled in front of their faces. all the suppositions, fantasies, conspiracy-nut theories, etc., that I’m sure they innocently/naively develop amongst themselves at cocktail parties, in the newsrooms of the country, etc.

so while it’s disappointing seeing these supposed objective journos insisting the facts are what *they* say they are, it does make great entertainment when someone that was actually there refuses to play along.

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PamK February 23, 2011 at 1:28 pm

Thanks for putting up this interview. (We do not have a TV set in our house and get our news through the WEB and The Economist, so we appreciate those websites that offer intelligent fare like this.) This interview is valuable because the interviewer obviously comes with specific “progressive” talking points. As pointed out by Rumsfield, her sources were not directly involved in the discussions and decisions she wanted to dissect, so those sources offered her imperfect commentary. However, by bringing these talking points up with Rumsfeld, she was offering her viewers a glimpse into what actually happened when she allowed him to answer her questions. She interrupted so often that one must discount her as an interviewer, but at least she allowed those who would like to know more an opportunity to do so by plugging his book. Just think how much better the show could have been if she had been an impartial interviewer exploring his viewpoints instead of trying to make gotcha points. Hopefully someone will do such an interview and your site will provide it.

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Net hick February 23, 2011 at 2:40 pm

Andrea Mitchell demonstrates that there is something worse than being the deer in the headlights.

Being the deer in a tractor-trailer’s headlights.

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XRay February 23, 2011 at 3:56 pm

What an agenda driven, tactless, and lacking in facts interview by Mitchell. She should be embarrassed. OTOH Rumsfeld did a fine job. Thanks for posting this.

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cbinflux February 23, 2011 at 4:07 pm

She really does come across as both biased and DUMB AS A POST.

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cbinflux February 23, 2011 at 4:14 pm

Acidic Andrea had hoped that she’d be going up against a senile, old man. She might want to check back in about five years, or ten.

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Mitch Rapp February 23, 2011 at 4:33 pm

One Rumsfeld is worth several thousand Obama’s

he has talents, skills and experience Obama has not even read about

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Mitch Rapp February 23, 2011 at 4:35 pm

And Rumsfeld can do this without a teleprompter!

In the meantime Obama is googling Libya to find out where or who it is

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MikeHu February 23, 2011 at 4:53 pm

Meanwhile, in that parallel Progressive People’s Universe – Mediaite section – it’s “Andrea Mitchell Puts Donald Rumsfeld On Defense During Tough Interrogation”

“Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has been making the media rounds and found his toughest interrogation thus far coming from Reece Witherspoon Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC.”

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Keith Koffler February 23, 2011 at 5:22 pm

Yeah, that was weird.

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firefirefire February 23, 2011 at 6:13 pm

Dear Politicians,
This is how you behave in an interview with the MSM.
Thank You Mr. Rumsfeld.

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Suzie February 23, 2011 at 8:54 pm

Andrea Mitchel is an idiot

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kevin knobloch February 24, 2011 at 12:22 am

I am glad you guys like Rumsfeld and dislike the way he was interviewed. But do you doubt the administration made sure the information that got the most exposure assured we draw the conclusion at the time of the invasion, that Suddam had supported those who perpetrated 9/11. Eventually even Pres Bush admitted there was no Iraqi state support for the 9/11 terrorists.

I will always believe that Powell left office because he felt lied to by the White House regarding intelligence linking Saddam and the 9/11 terrorists. Rumsfeld is a cold hard bastard who made up his mind we were going to use the country’s fear to drive us to accept that Iraqi was somehow involved in 9/11 so we could justify invading Iraqi. Now ten years later, several thousand dead service men and over 1.2 trillion dollars spent, what do we have to show for our misguided and largely unprovoked invasion of iraq?

Sorry, Rumsfeld is not a guy I want to salute.

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Keith Koffler February 24, 2011 at 6:08 am

I’m trying to think of a journalist who could go toe to toe with Rumsefeld, and it says something about journalism today that I can’t. Maybe David Gregory. Certainly wasn’t Andrea Mitchell.

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The Musket February 24, 2011 at 12:28 am

Andrea Mitchell – Remember, she’s the one that was terrified at one of the early tea parties. She appeared angry and fully briefed by left leaning blogs. And YES! she definitely abandoned her line of questioning at the end.

It seems to me that she accused Rummy of not allowing the CIA and the FBI and other agencies share info — if she did, she needs to remember that that decision actually came about during the Clinton presidency – I believe Barbara Boxer was involved, but it could have been a different Democrat.

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Sparkey February 24, 2011 at 9:31 am

Obviously she hadn’t read the book.

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